The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Gemini Cricket]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

See the diff?

Yep.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Two words - George Stephanopolis.

No, Stephanopolis was much cuter.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Two words - George Stephanopolis.

Have fun beating that dead horse.

[Gemini Cricket]

As long as Snow can pick out the Jeff Gannons during question time, I'm sure he'll do fine...

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Scrooge McSam

Have fun beating that dead horse.

Hmm....it isn't a dead horse to talk about the (supposed) Fox News bias?

Simply pointing out this is nothing unique. I'd also point out that Snow was a speech writer for Bush Sr. prior to working at Fox News.

[Gemini Cricket]

Tony Snow quote:

In November, he wrote that Mr Bush's "wavering conservatism has become an active concern among Republicans, who wish he would stop cowering under the bed and start fighting back".

Source

So the lesson is is that you can insult the president and still get a good job. Maybe even in the White House. But I'm sure that depends on who you are...

Hmm, so I wonder if he'll call on more of his conservative buddy journalists for softball questions. If I sat in that room, my eyebrow would be raised. Someone should take tallies. I'm sure someone with a lot of time on their hands will...

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

...the (supposed) Fox News bias?

LOL You should take that show on the road.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

The only reason that Tony Snow has ever been critical of Bush is when he doesn't think that Bush is far enough to the right. If that's an example of "fair and balanced", then Michael Moore is a moderate.

He'll be spinning like €uroMeinke in a teacup in no time.

And that's saying something.

[Alex]

Gemini Cricket, surely you don't think that Snow is any more or less a partisan than the guy he's replacing? At least now, for the first time since McClellan the press secretary is someone with a pleasing voice for television and radio.

Also, Tony Snow has never been presented as a journalist. His entire career on TV (and at NPR before he moved to Fox) has been as a pundit. Criticizing him as not fair and balanced is like saying CNN is skewed because James Carville only presents the left side of the equation.

As for George Stephanopoulis I was very skeptical that he could successfully move from political hackdom to straight journalism (rather than punditry as all the others do) and have been pleasantly surprised with how successfully he's pulled it off.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

The only reason that Tony Snow has ever been critical of Bush is when he doesn't think that Bush is far enough to the right. If that's an example of "fair and balanced", then Michael Moore is a moderate.

I find this to be hysterical. Really.

That means that since a large majority of journalists are mostly critical of Bush because he isn't far enough to the left (or is too far rto the right) that they can not be considered fair and balanced. Is that what you are meaning to say?

And I agree with Alex. Tony Snow has never tried to present himself as a journalist. He is in the business of talking about opinion.

In the interest of full disclosure, I have never watch George Stephanolpolis, so I cannot say as to whether he is "fair and balanced".

[Ghoulish Delight]

"fair and balanced" is the biggest load of crap ever. When did the definition of journalism switch from "present the facts" to "let nutjobs on both extremes spew their opinions"?