Gay Marriage Ban Approved

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Of course there is a Gay (movement) agenda. It is just one that most people here don't have a problem with.

Really? Would you like to enlighten us as to what that is?

[Alex]

How's this from the Mississippi Gay Lobby in 2000? (If you ain't got an agenda you probably don't need to lobby; yes, I know not every gay person would agree, but then not all women wanted to vote, either.)

A coalition of gay and lesbian groups will use 2000 census numbers to lobby state legislators to repeal sodomy laws, add sexual orientation to hate crime laws and legalize same-sex marriages.

Sounds like an agenda to me. It practically has bullet points and I can easily imagine the PowerPoint template.


I have no problem with these goals, but to pretend that there isn't a concerted effort among many gay groups to achieve certain changes in society is disingenuous.

[innerSpaceman]

But how is it a "gay agenda" if it's the agenda of some folks who are gay pertaining their homosexuality?

Was the civil rights movement a "black agenda" or was it a civil rights agenda?

It think calling it a black agenda falsely implies that all blacks are proponents of the civil rights agenda. Whether or not that is mostly true, I think it is an erroneous statement to make.

Similarly, the agenda for civil rights pertaining to gays is hardly universal among homosexuals ... which is a big surprise and personal disappointment to me ... but I think it rules out calling this branch of the civil rights agenda the "gay agenda."


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As for this unfortunate news from the Senate Committee, I find my disappointment more than offset by the judicial ruling in Georgia abolishing the gay marriage ban in that state. While the ruling had nothing to do with the merits of gay marriage (it was based on election irregularities), I find it comforting that justice seems mostly to come down on the side of, well, justice ... while I'm hardly surprised that politics seems mostly to come down of the side of barbarism.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

But how is it a "gay agenda" if it's the agenda of some folks who are gay pertaining their homosexuality?

Was the civil rights movement a "black agenda" or was it a civil rights agenda?

It think calling it a black agenda falsely implies that all blacks are proponents of the civil rights agenda. Whether or not that is mostly true, I think it is an erroneous statement to make.

Similarly, the agenda for civil rights pertaining to gays is hardly universal among homosexuals ... which is a big surprise and personal disappointment to me ... but I think it rules out calling this branch of the civil rights agenda the "gay agenda."


* * * * * *

As for this unfortunate news from the Senate Committee, I find my disappointment more than offset by the judicial ruling in Georgia abolishing the gay marriage ban in that state. While the ruling had nothing to do with the merits of gay marriage (it was based on election irregularities), I find it comforting that justice seems mostly to come down on the side of, well, justice ... while I'm hardly surprised that politics seems mostly to come down of the side of barbarism.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks.

[€uroMeinke]

If we see a plunge in small appliance stocks, we'll know it's time to worry

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

If we see a plunge in small appliance stocks, we'll know it's time to worry

I have all I need at the moment, thank you very much.

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Yeah, he's already had his sphincter repaired once. Let's let him rest a bit.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Yeah, he's already had his sphincter repaired once. Let's let him rest a bit.

Hey - I've had that thing repaired twice!

[Motorboat Cruiser]

All the more reason.

[SzczerbiakManiac]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Was the civil rights movement a "black agenda" or was it a civil rights agenda?

It was both. Blacks in the 60s (and other decades) absolutely had (have) an agenda to be equal to Whites. The fact that some Whites, Browns, Yellows, Greens, and Purples shared this agenda does not negate the fact that Blacks had it as well.

The word "agenda" is not a pejorative.