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Old 05-19-2006, 08:58 AM   #821
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I wish to puke.

The Senate voted to allow illegal aliens to get social security benefits even if the benefits were earned using forged or stolen documents. Why? They committed a felony to get those benefits. I just don't get it. I stole a million and invested it. Years later I am caught. DO I get to keep the investment earnings?

Then, with all the shouts of "Energy independence! Energy independence!", the off shore drilling ban off the coast of Florida was extended.

That does remind me of a humorous story to make me less ill.....a few years ago, there was a photo of Ted Kennedy on his Yacht off of Cape Cod surrounded by a couple of scantily clad young ladies. Senator Ernest Hollings, upon seeing the photo, commented (and you have to know what he sounds like, because it's much better coming from his voice) "I thought Kennedy was against off shore drillin'."
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:22 PM   #822
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So I'm guessing this is not the place to discuss my potential procreative-ness? Moving along...
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Old 05-21-2006, 12:30 PM   #823
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So I'm guessing this is not the place to discuss my potential procreative-ness? Moving along...
Do you have something to tell us, missy?
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:39 AM   #824
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Then, with all the shouts of "Energy independence! Energy independence!", the off shore drilling ban off the coast of Florida was extended.
To be fair; that ban has strong support from the President(but it does make sense to me a little; That area of Florida has about 3* million forms of life to every form found on the North Slope)



*number made up by me.
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Old 05-22-2006, 09:43 AM   #825
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I don't care if the ban has strong support of the President.

To my understanding, and i have not done much research on it, off shore oil rigs become like artifical reefs and the natural sea life flourishes around it in a similar way, not unlike sinking a large ship which then becomes a pseudo-reef.
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:02 AM   #826
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"Energy Independence" does NOT mean getting more oil. It means finding a better/cleaner long-term way to power all our toys. Hydrogen, Solar, Fusion, whatever.

The "oil rigs are good for nature" argument is ludacris. The way those platforms leak and sink can you really argue they are good for the environment?
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Old 05-22-2006, 10:40 AM   #827
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A better long term solution is part of it, yes. The reality of the situation, though, is those things don't do what oil does yet. Therefore, we must do something to increase out own oil production.

I would also suspect that the new solutions will have their own setbacks. Take hydrogen, for example. What is the exhaust for hydrogen fuel cells? It's water vapor. In a community such as Phoenix, what does the daily commute do when water vapor is being put out by several hundred thoughsand cars? It would completely alter the desert ecology.

There is no panacea. I'm all for something better than oil. But there isn't anything yet. And it's not looking like there will be for quite a while.

Of course oil rigs can leak and sink. Oil tankers crash, too. The best one can do is to try to utilize sources in the best and cleanest way possible. However, not all oil rigs leak and not all oil rigs sink. They do take on properties of reefs.
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Old 05-22-2006, 11:53 AM   #828
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In a community such as Phoenix, what does the daily commute do when water vapor is being put out by several hundred thoughsand cars? It would completely alter the desert ecology.
I'm pretty sure that even if every home in Phoenix decided to boil water all day long, it couldn't possibly alter the desert ecology.
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Old 05-22-2006, 12:02 PM   #830
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It's also an art- like with the Father in A Christmas Story.

I'm nowhere near as proficient as him, but I work on it daily.
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