North Korea, here we come?

Moonliner · 06-19-2006, 08:07 AM

So based on Bush's views... Why are we not invading North Korea?

They say outright they have weapons of mass destruction.

They now have the ability to deliver said weapons

They are ruled by a decidedly unfriendly president with the will to use such weapons.

Sounds like all the pieces to the bush doctrine of preemptive aggression are in place why aren't we sending in the troops??

Oh wait I forgot one, how much oil do they have?

wendybeth · 06-19-2006, 08:18 AM

Well, they do have lots and lots of starving masses of humanity.....Oh, and concrete. It's everywhere there! It covers up the lack of vegetation of any kind that the SMoH ate up long ago.

Scrooge McSam · 06-19-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

Oh wait I forgot one, how much oil do they have?

Bingo!

Plus, we're kinda busy with this whole war on a tactic thing.

Nephythys · 06-19-2006, 09:05 AM

of fer fvcks sake- if this was about oil why am I paying so much at the pump?

When are people going to let go of a totally unproven theory?

Leaving now-I can't take it today....

Alex · 06-19-2006, 09:11 AM

There would be strong regional opposition to a war in North Korea. Despite all the talk, the rest of the Arabian Peninsula didn't really have a big problem with us going into Iraq (as evidenced by the fact that our bases are in most of the other Arabian countries).

Further there are other powers in the region that we can reasonably expect to be capable of curtailing any North Korean aggression. Unlike Iraq, which listened to no one (though Russia tried) North Korea can not realistically completely isolate itself. This is why we insisted that any negotiations had to include China.

Further, North Korea already has the nuclear material necessary to create bombs. There is a huge difference between attacking a country to prevent acquisition (as with Iraq) and attacking to take it away.

Further, despite being bat-**** insane, North Korea has a 50-year track record of not actually making any attempts at territorial expansion (unlike Iraq) and while it has ties with terrorism they have mostly been regional and not directed at the United States (Japan has a lot more reason to worry about attack than we do).

So maybe the reason we're not invading North Korea is because, despite the ability to make a bulletted list showing similarities they are actually different situations.

sleepyjeff · 06-19-2006, 04:18 PM

Basically I agree with what Alex says here; but I would like to add that like it or not OIL is important not only to our economic engine but to the worlds....an Iraq with a Sadaam Hussain thumbing his nose at the World community could not be allowed. He would have been(or was) capable of bullying his neighbors(weapons or not; just convinving other leaders he had them is enough to bully them) and as he aged there really was no telling what he would do((for gosh sakes he tried to kill Bush I---an act of war in itself---))

So if anyone wants to say it was about oil....I am not going to argue; so long as you leave the word just out of the sentence

€uroMeinke · 06-19-2006, 09:42 PM

I think we should leave it up to the Japanese to invade them, they have a pretty good track record for being successful in that endevour.

SacTown Chronic · 06-20-2006, 06:47 AM

The War on Islam doesn't work if there are no Muslims to kill.

Gemini Cricket · 06-20-2006, 06:55 AM

I thought it was the war on brown people?

scaeagles · 06-20-2006, 09:35 PM

I was thinking today....I sure am glad we continued with an anti missile defense system even when it was said that the current threats to the US did not have intercontinental ballistic technology. It's good to be prepared.

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wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Well, they do have lots and lots of starving masses of humanity.....Oh, and concrete. It's everywhere there! It covers up the lack of vegetation of any kind that the SMoH ate up long ago. __________________
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Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	of fer fvcks sake- if this was about oil why am I paying so much at the pump? When are people going to let go of a totally unproven theory? Leaving now-I can't take it today....
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	There would be strong regional opposition to a war in North Korea. Despite all the talk, the rest of the Arabian Peninsula didn't really have a big problem with us going into Iraq (as evidenced by the fact that our bases are in most of the other Arabian countries). Further there are other powers in the region that we can reasonably expect to be capable of curtailing any North Korean aggression. Unlike Iraq, which listened to no one (though Russia tried) North Korea can not realistically completely isolate itself. This is why we insisted that any negotiations had to include China. Further, North Korea already has the nuclear material necessary to create bombs. There is a huge difference between attacking a country to prevent acquisition (as with Iraq) and attacking to take it away. Further, despite being bat-**** insane, North Korea has a 50-year track record of not actually making any attempts at territorial expansion (unlike Iraq) and while it has ties with terrorism they have mostly been regional and not directed at the United States (Japan has a lot more reason to worry about attack than we do). So maybe the reason we're not invading North Korea is because, despite the ability to make a bulletted list showing similarities they are actually different situations.
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sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	Basically I agree with what Alex says here; but I would like to add that like it or not OIL is important not only to our economic engine but to the worlds....an Iraq with a Sadaam Hussain thumbing his nose at the World community could not be allowed. He would have been(or was) capable of bullying his neighbors(weapons or not; just convinving other leaders he had them is enough to bully them) and as he aged there really was no telling what he would do((for gosh sakes he tried to kill Bush I---an act of war in itself---)) So if anyone wants to say it was about oil....I am not going to argue; so long as you leave the word just out of the sentence __________________ River Guardian-less
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	I think we should leave it up to the Japanese to invade them, they have a pretty good track record for being successful in that endevour. __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	The War on Islam doesn't work if there are no Muslims to kill.
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Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I thought it was the war on brown people?
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I was thinking today....I sure am glad we continued with an anti missile defense system even when it was said that the current threats to the US did not have intercontinental ballistic technology. It's good to be prepared.
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