POTC Johnny Refurb - Page 14

MickeyLumbo · 07-02-2006, 04:39 PM

there once was a time when people bitterly complained about the changes made to Walt Disney's original Fantasyland. without consideration to the historical value or guest reaction, imagineers did the unthinkable: moved King Authur's carousel back away from the congested area behind Sleeping Beauty Castle and relocated the Mad Tea Party near a friggin mountain! and they didn't stop there- oh no. the colorful carnival and medieval design of the area was transformed into a Bavarian Village!!!

um, Walt was always about "addin' and a plussin'... "as long is there is imagination left in the world..."

i give the New Fantasyland a thumbs up. and Harold in the Matterhorn. and the new scenes/effects in Pirates. I really enjoyed myself on each ride.

It's not a museum!

ok, ok, i'll admit, now it's time to fix Tomorrowland

Matterhorn Fan · 07-02-2006, 05:00 PM

ML, you know you're not gonna change iSm's mind.

Just because people became accustomed to and grew to appreciate the new Fantasyland (even if they didn't like it at first) does not mean that people will/must become accustomed to and grow to appreciate every change that is made to a Disney park. I can only speak for myself here, but if I don't like something, no amount of "as long as there's imagination left in the world" and "it's not a museum" is going to make me appreciate something I don't like. Case in point: I will never, ever, like the Tiki Room Under New Management. I understand why they changed it; I accept that fewer people walk out of the show now. But I don't have to like it (and I don't have to go in)--and nobody can change my mind.

I haven't been on Pirates in FL yet (and it may be a long time before I get back to CA), and I'll make up my mind when I see it. I expect that I won't really LOVE it, and I know that if they put a monkey in there, I may never ride it again. We'll see.

MickeyLumbo · 07-02-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn Fan

ML, you know you're not gonna change iSm's mind.

it was not my intent to change his or anyone's mind. i respect everyone's reaction to the changes.

does it make me sad that everyone is not pleased? yes.

i have no desire to make anyone like it or change their mind. i only want all to be happy and gay

and i hope you enjoy the WDW version.

Matterhorn Fan · 07-02-2006, 05:13 PM

I hope so, too. I'm not optimistic, but then again, it's much easier to be pleasantly suprised when one's expectations are low.

There's no monkey, is there? Please say there's no monkeys in Pirates! Pretty please?

MickeyLumbo · 07-02-2006, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matterhorn Fan

There's no monkey, is there? Please say there's no monkeys in Pirates! Pretty please?

I have witnessed a Sea Monkey or two.

CoasterMatt · 07-02-2006, 09:09 PM

I just wish they'd add something to toss any flash picture takers into the water...

€uroMeinke · 07-02-2006, 09:56 PM

My wish is that imaineerin once aain turns its attention into creating NEW attractions and experiences - I'm gettin tired of all the overlays and tweeks. I like Monsters, I'm looking forward to Nemo subs - I'm hoping this marks the change to the new and away from the "imporved."

MickeyLumbo · 07-02-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

My wish is that imaineerin once aain turns its attention into creating NEW attractions and experiences - I'm gettin tired of all the overlays and tweeks. I like Monsters, I'm looking forward to Nemo subs - I'm hoping this marks the change to the new and away from the "imporved."

i agreee. well moistly.

Alex · 07-03-2006, 12:42 AM

Is not Finding Nemo Subs essentially an overlay and tweak? I long held out hope that they would eventually fill in the lagoon and do something completely new. Or at least find another water-based attraction to do.

Gemini Cricket · 07-03-2006, 05:39 AM

From the video I've seen, I really don't care much for the projection of Davey Jones either. But I love the waterfall effect. Pretty cool.

I could have sworn that I heard that Depp and Rush did the voices for their AA's. :shrug:

I would agree that Disneyland isn't a museum and shouldn't be. But tweaking rides that need tweaking is fine with me. Adjusting rides that are doing just fine, kind of worries me. I mean the lines for POTC are always long (but they do move fast) which indicates that the ride wasn't going stale. I understand that the ride tweakage had everything to do with the movie, which doesn't really bother me either. (As much as we love SB castle, it was/is a giant ad for the 'Sleeping Beauty' film.)

I'm hoping that certain things added aren't permanent. It seems that where they placed the Johnny Depp room is a place that has changed a couple of times already. Maybe it's a cursed spot, like the desk where Murphy Brown's secretaries sat. No one will be permanent there...

07-02-2006, 04:39 PM	#131
MickeyLumbo thankfully grateful Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: shangrila Posts: 1,388	there once was a time when people bitterly complained about the changes made to Walt Disney's original Fantasyland. without consideration to the historical value or guest reaction, imagineers did the unthinkable: moved King Authur's carousel back away from the congested area behind Sleeping Beauty Castle and relocated the Mad Tea Party near a friggin mountain! and they didn't stop there- oh no. the colorful carnival and medieval design of the area was transformed into a Bavarian Village!!! um, Walt was always about "addin' and a plussin'... "as long is there is imagination left in the world..." i give the New Fantasyland a thumbs up. and Harold in the Matterhorn. and the new scenes/effects in Pirates. I really enjoyed myself on each ride. It's not a museum! ok, ok, i'll admit, now it's time to fix Tomorrowland __________________
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07-02-2006, 05:00 PM	#132
Matterhorn Fan Double Agent Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Back East Posts: 2,071	ML, you know you're not gonna change iSm's mind. Just because people became accustomed to and grew to appreciate the new Fantasyland (even if they didn't like it at first) does not mean that people will/must become accustomed to and grow to appreciate every change that is made to a Disney park. I can only speak for myself here, but if I don't like something, no amount of "as long as there's imagination left in the world" and "it's not a museum" is going to make me appreciate something I don't like. Case in point: I will never, ever, like the Tiki Room Under New Management. I understand why they changed it; I accept that fewer people walk out of the show now. But I don't have to like it (and I don't have to go in)--and nobody can change my mind. I haven't been on Pirates in FL yet (and it may be a long time before I get back to CA), and I'll make up my mind when I see it. I expect that I won't really LOVE it, and I know that if they put a monkey in there, I may never ride it again. We'll see.
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07-02-2006, 05:13 PM	#134
Matterhorn Fan Double Agent Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Back East Posts: 2,071	I hope so, too. I'm not optimistic, but then again, it's much easier to be pleasantly suprised when one's expectations are low. There's no monkey, is there? Please say there's no monkeys in Pirates! Pretty please?
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07-02-2006, 09:09 PM	#136
CoasterMatt BRAAAAAAAINS! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: One Step Beyond... Posts: 8,802	I just wish they'd add something to toss any flash picture takers into the water... __________________ Do you like my photography? Visit photosbymatt.tumblr.com to purchase prints!
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€uroMeinke L'Hédoniste Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A.S.C.O.T. Posts: 8,671	My wish is that imaineerin once aain turns its attention into creating NEW attractions and experiences - I'm gettin tired of all the overlays and tweeks. I like Monsters, I'm looking forward to Nemo subs - I'm hoping this marks the change to the new and away from the "imporved." __________________ I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. Friedrich Nietzsche
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07-03-2006, 12:42 AM	#139
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Is not Finding Nemo Subs essentially an overlay and tweak? I long held out hope that they would eventually fill in the lagoon and do something completely new. Or at least find another water-based attraction to do.
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07-03-2006, 05:39 AM	#140
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	From the video I've seen, I really don't care much for the projection of Davey Jones either. But I love the waterfall effect. Pretty cool. I could have sworn that I heard that Depp and Rush did the voices for their AA's. :shrug: I would agree that Disneyland isn't a museum and shouldn't be. But tweaking rides that need tweaking is fine with me. Adjusting rides that are doing just fine, kind of worries me. I mean the lines for POTC are always long (but they do move fast) which indicates that the ride wasn't going stale. I understand that the ride tweakage had everything to do with the movie, which doesn't really bother me either. (As much as we love SB castle, it was/is a giant ad for the 'Sleeping Beauty' film.) I'm hoping that certain things added aren't permanent. It seems that where they placed the Johnny Depp room is a place that has changed a couple of times already. Maybe it's a cursed spot, like the desk where Murphy Brown's secretaries sat. No one will be permanent there...
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