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Old 07-08-2006, 11:15 AM   #1
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My random thoughts.

Loved: SHINY! And Johnny. He's dreamy, though I'm not sure I like what they are doing with his character.

I didn't get the beginning, what does that have to do with anything? And the ending. Barbossa. Really?! Didn't he die at the end? Though I suppose they have to show that they can bring people back from the dead so they can bring Sparrow back.

Was anyone else waiting for the LOST monster when they were running through the island or King Kong to appear?
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Old 07-08-2006, 11:21 AM   #2
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Considering that the entire movie is a chase to find a still-beating heart buried for years in the sand of a random atoll using a magic compass that takes you to your true desire I don't really have a problem with the return of Barbossa.

So far I have received about 35 emails in response to my review (mostly because they want me to tell them what the post-credits scene was) and so far nobody has said they didn't like it and many have taken me to task for not liking it enough. I'm not saying that argues against not liking it if you didn't, just pointing it out (if general consensus ruled I would have to like Twister).
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And the ending. Barbossa. Really?! Didn't he die at the end? Though I suppose they have to show that they can bring people back from the dead so they can bring Sparrow back.
But he's not dead, remember? At the end of POTC, the monkey steals one of the coins again, presumably re-triggering the curse. That's confirmed in this film since Bootstrap is "alive", and remember when Jack shoots the monkey and shows the haitian lady that he's giving her an undead monkey? So we know that Jack isn't going to die anyway. I guess it's just the two pirates (the ones who dressed up in the dresses on the first one) who still think they're mortal now.
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Old 07-08-2006, 11:28 AM   #4
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No, the monkey is still alive because it had a coin. Nobody else was still cursed. Otherwise Jack Sparrow and the two comedic-relief pirates (and why a movie that is one big bit of comedic-relief needs comedic-relief characters I don't know) would turn to skeletons every night. Which they don't. When the monkey first appears at the beginning of the movie it is in undead form but Jack, standing right next to it, is not.

Bootstrap Bill is still alive because he took the deal to work on Davy Jones's crew while the curse was still in effect (and he was sitting at the bottom of the ocean tied to a cannon) and is now under the protection of that spell.
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Bootstrap Bill is still alive because he took the deal to work on Davy Jones's crew while the curse was still in effect (and he was sitting at the bottom of the ocean tied to a cannon) and is now under the protection of that spell.
OK, I didn't get that at all.

But then, that still doesn't explain why Barbossa is still alive. Maybe they're saving that explanation for 3? And they're gonna have to explain how they're bringing Jack back then.


I remember speculation after the first one about whether the monkey stealing the coin would re-trigger the curse, and yeah, it seemed unfair that if one of them stole it again, they would all be cursed again, but then there was the whole question of Barbossa.
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