Get It Off Your (Dead Man's) Chest: Pirates Movie Reviews

[innerSpaceman]

Pfft, I'm still confused about why Barbossa is (was?) dead in the first place.

When he was shot by Jack, Turner's blood had been spilled on the treasure, but the last coin had still not been returned to the chest. Aren't both things necessary for the curse to have been broken?




This simply does not bode well for me understanding what the frell is going on in the 2-part sequel pair.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

When he was shot by Jack, Turner's blood had been spilled on the treasure, but the last coin had still not been returned to the chest. Aren't both things necessary for the curse to have been broken?

My justification for him dying was that the curse has a time lag. i.e., when a cursed pirate's non-moonlit flesh gets injured, it needs a bit of time to heal. So he gets shot, there's a hole in him, THEN the coins are returned, breaking the curse, bullet hole remaining. That's why he suddenly started to bleed.

He needs the heart to bargain with Davy Jones for release from their bargain. It wasn't made clear what destroying the heart would do ....perhaps if Davy Jones "dies," Sparrow would still have to serve under Hammerhead Man or ShrimpFace or some other promoted member of the Crustaceon Crew.

Jack said it. If he kills Jones by killing the heart, no one would be able to call off the Craken.

Umm, ditto to what the detractors have said. Forget the story problems, forget the loss of interest in once-interesting characters. What it all comes down to is...it lost its fun. The first movie was fun, beginning to end. This one was not. It was plodding and heavy-handed. The humor was no longer the point of the movie. They were just a string of comic relife punchlines. Feh.

Enjoyable bits and pieces to be sure, but a far cry from the first. Even the ride references seemed more of the Haunted Mansion Movie variety than the far more clever and integrated references of the first. I mean THREE jail scene references? THREE?! And they already had one in the first movie. Get over it!

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

My justification for him dying was that the curse has a time lag. i.e., when a cursed pirate's non-moonlit flesh gets injured, it needs a bit of time to heal. So he gets shot, there's a hole in him, THEN the coins are returned, breaking the curse, bullet hole remaining. That's why he suddenly started to bleed.

I'd agree with that. Earlier in the first there is a point in time where Elizabeth uses the wheel of the ship to break the neck of an undead pirate. Takes him a few seconds to pop it back. If his neck was broken and then the curse is immediately lifted, he has no time to fix it.