POTC Johnny Refurb - Page 19

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-07-2006, 01:23 PM

Did anyone go to City Hall yet?

Seriously, guys, Disney may or may not read this board, but if you actually take a moment to put your signature on a piece of paper, you will be heard (perhaps not heeded, but heard).

As has been stated here, the average joe will not understand this, and it's up to us to make a stink if something's really wrong. I myself may put pen to paper at City Hall in order to help get rid of the final Jack and the cacophany in the battle scene. NOW is the time, because if it sits there for 6 months and no one complains it is there for good.

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Gn2Dlnd · 07-07-2006, 02:00 PM

It was nearly midnight by the time I walked off Pirates the night I went. I was too tired to stand in line at City Hall and try to be pleasant, and not be irritated by a condescending CM. Mickeylumbo's (all due respect) replies here on the board are sort of what I expect to hear at City Hall. Right now, even if the powers that be know they've made a mistake, they don't want to look like chumps. The answer is always going to be some variation of "It's not a museum, Disneyland was meant to grow, I'm sorry your day wasn't magical, wank wank wank."

As my pass is a pumpkin until August, I won't be stopping into City Hall anytime soon. I might write a letter. I might make a phone call. I don't know. What I'd like is to buy John Lasseter a cup of coffee and sit down with him for 10 minutes.

RStar · 07-08-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Anyways, I confirmed my worst about the long, dark tunnel. The mist waterfall does indeed cut far short the reveal to what I've always called the "get it" room (i.e., a vast chamber filled with water, projected clouds upon a faux sky, and a looming pirate ship firing its cannons upon a Spanish fortress. If you haven't gotten it by then, this is where you frelling "get it.")

And it's not simply that the tunnel does not become lofty and vaulted because they now fail to light the loftiness .... its because the loftiness is no more! The contraption that creates the mistfall descends 20 feet from the roof of the tunnel. Look backwards next time you pass through Davy Jones cheapcrap projection effect. The machinery is huge, and the lofty tunnel is humbled.

That is a shame. I use to marvel at the size of the cave they made. It gave it a beliveability. But also the long quite tunnel, with a faint "Dead men tell no tales" in the background told you things were changing, IE from the present to the past. It was that long wait that made you anticipate what was ahead. I will miss this part. And now indure the fog machine and movie soundtrack instead.

Perhaps they will show clips from POTC 3 on the walls of the cave soon!??

innerSpaceman · 07-09-2006, 07:39 AM

I intend to visit City Hall today.

NA, that exit music (the best piece, imo) is still there. It's hard to hear over Davy Jones's lame rendition of "Ye may not surviiiiive," but once you clear the lift, it's louder than ever and gloriously restored. So loud, in fact, that you can hear it fine from the queue as you enter the building. That's one of the few genuine improvements. The cool jazzy rendition of Yo Ho is the supreme musical moment of the experience, imo.

Isaac · 07-10-2006, 01:21 AM

I'm not a fan of the new stuff.

The new things have a certain amount of entertainment value but clash with the Marc Davis style. The new music is annoying in a DCA kinda way. The two scenes that had new music added were more striking & evoked more feelings when they were silent. You don't need an underscore to stir emotions. I agree with iSm that the new stuff sticks out like a sore thumb and throws off the delicate balance of the ride. Why the hell is there a giant crate full of treasure inside the armory?! I doubt pirates hid their treasure in the same place they kept their gun powder.

My problem is not that they changed the ride, but rather, how they changed it.

It's lame.

I will be filing out a 'conern' form at City Hall real soon, just as I did after I saw the new bride inside Haunted Mansion.

Gemini Cricket · 07-10-2006, 06:13 AM

After seeing the film, I'm sad that there will be no Davey Jones AA. That would have been truly something to see.

Mary Blairiffic · 07-10-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

After seeing the film, I'm sad that there will be no Davey Jones AA. That would have been truly something to see.

I totally agree!!!

I'm looking forward to seeing the projection special effect, but an AA woulda rocked my world. Maybe they'll rethink this and add it later on... in a perfect world.

innerSpaceman · 07-10-2006, 10:22 PM

Yes, an AA might have been better. The projection effect is so flat ... I'm more impressed with him in G.C.'s avatar than I am with him on the ride.

Kevy Baby · 07-10-2006, 10:29 PM

I enjoyed the new Pirates. The first two CJS AA's were AWESOME - almost a little too realistic. I like the screen, but saddened by what we lost. Curses.

The music is a bit overbearing in places, but overall, I am happy with the improved audio. Being a sound guy, this is a HUGE improvement IMO.

Other than Barbosa in the battle scene and the new Depp lair, there really aren't significant changes. Tweaks and adjustments, yes. But nothing terrible.

So, I guess I am odd man out.

DreadPirateRoberts · 07-10-2006, 10:44 PM

As a member of the unwashed masses, I liked the painting of Jack Sparrow at the entrance, I think it was tastefully done. I liked the skeleton parrot. I miss singing with the Mellowmen between the two drops, that was a boat bonding experience.

07-07-2006, 01:23 PM	#181
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Did anyone go to City Hall yet? Seriously, guys, Disney may or may not read this board, but if you actually take a moment to put your signature on a piece of paper, you will be heard (perhaps not heeded, but heard). As has been stated here, the average joe will not understand this, and it's up to us to make a stink if something's really wrong. I myself may put pen to paper at City Hall in order to help get rid of the final Jack and the cacophany in the battle scene. NOW is the time, because if it sits there for 6 months and no one complains it is there for good. </PSA> __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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07-07-2006, 02:00 PM	#182
Gn2Dlnd Parmmadore Jim Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Casita del Queso Posts: 3,810	It was nearly midnight by the time I walked off Pirates the night I went. I was too tired to stand in line at City Hall and try to be pleasant, and not be irritated by a condescending CM. Mickeylumbo's (all due respect) replies here on the board are sort of what I expect to hear at City Hall. Right now, even if the powers that be know they've made a mistake, they don't want to look like chumps. The answer is always going to be some variation of "It's not a museum, Disneyland was meant to grow, I'm sorry your day wasn't magical, wank wank wank." As my pass is a pumpkin until August, I won't be stopping into City Hall anytime soon. I might write a letter. I might make a phone call. I don't know. What I'd like is to buy John Lasseter a cup of coffee and sit down with him for 10 minutes. __________________ Does anyone still wear a hat?
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07-09-2006, 07:39 AM	#184
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I intend to visit City Hall today. NA, that exit music (the best piece, imo) is still there. It's hard to hear over Davy Jones's lame rendition of "Ye may not surviiiiive," but once you clear the lift, it's louder than ever and gloriously restored. So loud, in fact, that you can hear it fine from the queue as you enter the building. That's one of the few genuine improvements. The cool jazzy rendition of Yo Ho is the supreme musical moment of the experience, imo.
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07-10-2006, 01:21 AM	#185
Isaac the one n only Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Anaheim Posts: 1,236	I'm not a fan of the new stuff. The new things have a certain amount of entertainment value but clash with the Marc Davis style. The new music is annoying in a DCA kinda way. The two scenes that had new music added were more striking & evoked more feelings when they were silent. You don't need an underscore to stir emotions. I agree with iSm that the new stuff sticks out like a sore thumb and throws off the delicate balance of the ride. Why the hell is there a giant crate full of treasure inside the armory?! I doubt pirates hid their treasure in the same place they kept their gun powder. My problem is not that they changed the ride, but rather, how they changed it. It's lame. I will be filing out a 'conern' form at City Hall real soon, just as I did after I saw the new bride inside Haunted Mansion. __________________
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07-10-2006, 06:13 AM	#186
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	After seeing the film, I'm sad that there will be no Davey Jones AA. That would have been truly something to see.
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07-10-2006, 10:22 PM	#188
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, an AA might have been better. The projection effect is so flat ... I'm more impressed with him in G.C.'s avatar than I am with him on the ride.
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07-10-2006, 10:29 PM	#189
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	I enjoyed the new Pirates. The first two CJS AA's were AWESOME - almost a little too realistic. I like the screen, but saddened by what we lost. Curses. The music is a bit overbearing in places, but overall, I am happy with the improved audio. Being a sound guy, this is a HUGE improvement IMO. Other than Barbosa in the battle scene and the new Depp lair, there really aren't significant changes. Tweaks and adjustments, yes. But nothing terrible. So, I guess I am odd man out. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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07-10-2006, 10:44 PM	#190
DreadPirateRoberts Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,483	As a member of the unwashed masses, I liked the painting of Jack Sparrow at the entrance, I think it was tastefully done. I liked the skeleton parrot. I miss singing with the Mellowmen between the two drops, that was a boat bonding experience.
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