Get It Off Your (Dead Man's) Chest: Pirates Movie Reviews

[Alex]

The kraken attacks do seem to be a poorly thought-out portion of the script.

Initially it is said that the kraken will persue whoever has the black mark, which Bootstrap Bill then puts on Jack. So the kraken goes off and attacks the ship where his has ended up and apparently without a specific plunger call to arms. When Jack offers the 100 souls, Davy Jones's removes the mark for the three days he is given. The second attack happens
during this period so it is fine to assume that the kraken wasn't in persuit of Jack and available for a specific call to arms. Then when Jack is about to kill Elizabeth the time runs out and the mark returns. No kraken attack between then arrival at the island with the chest. When they get back to the Black Pearl and set sail they are apparently in deep enough waters for the kraken to attack but it does not do so until the plunger of doom and then it attacks immediately so it was in the area.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

The kraken attacks do seem to be a poorly thought-out portion of the script.

Hmm. This is how I saw it:

Sparrow is marked. The mark, basically, shows the claim that Davy Jones has over him. Either Jack returns to the Flying Dutchman to serve 100 years, or Jones sends the Kraken to destroy him. Jack chooses to flee, so Kraken it is. He manges to outsmart the beast and make it to land before the attack, and the beast instead attacks a ship that was in the last known location of the Pearl, and was also carrying one of Sparrow's artifacts.

The mark is then temporarily removed from Sparrow's hand after a second bargain is struck.

The next time the Kraken attacks, it's target is Will Turner, not Jack Sparrow.

The mark returns, Jack hasn't brought the 100 souls he promised, so the Kraken is once again summoned to attack the Pearl.

I don't think the Kraken is following the mark so much as a general order to destroy whatever ship Jack Sparrow is othought to be on. The first attack featured a boat that was sailing in waters near to the Pearl's last known location. The second attack, it was being ordered to attack a different ship. The third, it was going after the Pearl, where Sparrow was thought to be. (Turner, the key thief, too.) It probably would have gone after the row boat after taking down the Pearl, but obviously Sparrow was hoping to make it to the shallows before the Pearl was completely destroyed.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Eliza Hodgkins 1812

Hmm. This is how I saw it:

Sparrow is marked. The mark, basically, shows the claim that Davy Jones has over him. Either Jack returns to the Flying Dutchman to serve 100 years, or Jones sends the Kraken to destroy him. Jack chooses to flee, so Kraken it is. He manges to outsmart the beast and make it to land before the attack, and the beast instead attacks a ship that was in the last known location of the Pearl, and was also carrying one of Sparrow's artifacts.

The mark is then temporarily removed from Sparrow's hand after a second bargain is struck.

The next time the Kraken attacks, it's target is Will Turner, not Jack Sparrow.

The mark returns, Jack hasn't brought the 100 souls he promised, so the Kraken is once again summoned to attack the Pearl.

I don't think the Kraken is following the mark so much as a general order to destroy whatever ship Jack Sparrow is othought to be on. The first attack featured a boat that was sailing in waters near to the Pearl's last known location. The second attack, it was being ordered to attack a different ship. The third, it was going after the Pearl, where Sparrow was thought to be. (Turner, the key thief, too.) It probably would have gone after the row boat after taking down the Pearl, but obviously Sparrow was hoping to make it to the shallows before the Pearl was completely destroyed.

And that's supposed to make a fun movie? Sounds more like the instructions on some of the tax forms I have to fill out...


Note: That's a dig at the screenwritters and NOT at your interpretaion of said script.

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

Originally Posted by Moonliner

And that's supposed to make a fun movie? Sounds more like the instructions on some of the tax forms I have to fill out...


Note: That's a dig at the screenwritters and NOT at your interpretaion of said script.

Well, I think my interpretation did read like an instructional manual, so I wouldn't be offended even if you were. It didn't feel like that to me when watching it. My only problem with the Kraken was its overuse. It should have only appeared in the teaser scene, when it first sucks in the boat, and in the climax. Especially since we're probably in for a final battle in which it's killed. Kraken, Kraken, too much Kraken. It's appearances in the film, however, made sense to me.