World Cup, cry baby athletes, and poor sportsmanship

Gemini Cricket · 07-12-2006, 08:34 AM

If I head butted someone at work when I got mad, I'd get fired.

"Huh? You want what Mail Merged?" Headbutt to my boss's chest. *Wham!* "Here's your Mail Merge, dinglecheese!"

Then again, my boss is like 5'1" so I'd have to crouch down and then headbutt her. It would kinda lose it's effect...

Alex · 07-12-2006, 09:04 AM

And if, instead of asking for a mailmerge she said "do the mail merge you faggot, you probably get your rocks off sticking your **** up the asses of four-year-olds until they bleed to death" there would be plenty of people who, while not thinking your violence was the correct course of action, could understand it.

The whole idea behind the progressive advancement of "speech codes" and "fighting words" is the idea that some words are so dispicable that violence is essentially an inevitable response.

Gemini Cricket · 07-12-2006, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

And if, instead of asking for a mailmerge she said "do the mail merge you faggot, you probably get your rocks off sticking your **** up the asses of four-year-olds until they bleed to death" there would be plenty of people who, while not thinking your violence was the correct course of action, could understand it.

"I suppose..." (And I say that in an Eartha Kitt voice as she looks doubtfully at Kronk.) That's grasping at straws there, Alex. But if one must point out the one thing that sets you apart from everyone else just to prove a point about something idiotic, then so be it.

And if my boss said that to me, I'd find that funny, too. She has this crazy Boston accent that makes me laugh. And she would do it with hand motions, because she uses hand motions for everything.

Alex · 07-12-2006, 09:59 AM

What's grasping at straws, I'm just searching for something that you would find offensive in our context. Perhaps you wouldn't react violently and I'd like to think so. But if you did a lot of people would defend you for it, is my point.

If what is reported is true then what was said is horribly offensive. Just because you don't find it offensive doesn't make it less so. To us being upset at "Algerian terrorist" is as meaningless as why Paki is so offensive in most parts of the world. We lack the context that makes it offensive.

I'm not defending a violent response to any words. But I'm on the losing side of that debate. The basis on which hate speech legislation has been passed all around the world is to prevent violence. Apparently most of the world, particularly the European part of it, accepts the idea that a person can say something so repugnant that they are responsible for any resulting violence.

07-12-2006, 08:34 AM	#1
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	If I head butted someone at work when I got mad, I'd get fired. "Huh? You want what Mail Merged?" Headbutt to my boss's chest. Wham! "Here's your Mail Merge, dinglecheese!" Then again, my boss is like 5'1" so I'd have to crouch down and then headbutt her. It would kinda lose it's effect...
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	And if, instead of asking for a mailmerge she said "do the mail merge you faggot, you probably get your rocks off sticking your **** up the asses of four-year-olds until they bleed to death" there would be plenty of people who, while not thinking your violence was the correct course of action, could understand it. The whole idea behind the progressive advancement of "speech codes" and "fighting words" is the idea that some words are so dispicable that violence is essentially an inevitable response.
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07-12-2006, 09:59 AM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	What's grasping at straws, I'm just searching for something that you would find offensive in our context. Perhaps you wouldn't react violently and I'd like to think so. But if you did a lot of people would defend you for it, is my point. If what is reported is true then what was said is horribly offensive. Just because you don't find it offensive doesn't make it less so. To us being upset at "Algerian terrorist" is as meaningless as why Paki is so offensive in most parts of the world. We lack the context that makes it offensive. I'm not defending a violent response to any words. But I'm on the losing side of that debate. The basis on which hate speech legislation has been passed all around the world is to prevent violence. Apparently most of the world, particularly the European part of it, accepts the idea that a person can say something so repugnant that they are responsible for any resulting violence.
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