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Old 02-08-2005, 12:13 PM   #1
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I think he's going to find as much resistance to this fantasy budget from Republicans as Deomcrats. Among other things, he's talking about huge gashes in farm subsidies, something that's going to affect Republican constituancies, and it's the congressmen that have to approve this and the congressmen who are up for reelection.
Actually, this is why I think it is brilliant. It gives the republicans who are up for reelection the opportunity to oppose such things. I am certain he will find resistance from the republicans. It makes the resistance of the dems less likely to gain political foothold in the off year elections by putting the house and senate members on the same ground - opposing major parts of the budget. The difference is that the republicans will position themselves as compromisers and the dems will continue to look like a party in opposition to everything. Even if certina things deserve opposition, it is how they will look, and I think that contributed largely to the reelection of Bush and increases in the house and senate.

Farm subsidies.....as I understand that aspect, it cuts subsidies to corporate farmers, not family farmers.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:27 PM   #2
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Even if certina things deserve opposition, it is how they will look, and I think that contributed largely to the reelection of Bush and increases in the house and senate.
You're right there. As we've seen, truth matters not. It's all about appearances.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:33 PM   #3
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You're right there. As we've seen, truth matters not. It's all about appearances.
As it has been in politics and will continue to be so for all eternity. A sad reality, but one that I am willing to admit goes throughout the system and is not limited to one party.
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As it has been in politics and will continue to be so for all eternity. A sad reality, but one that I am willing to admit goes throughout the system and is not limited to one party.
I think we all have to admit that.

Who's willing to work to change it? I think that's the greater question.
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I think we all have to admit that.

Who's willing to work to change it? I think that's the greater question.
That's a difficult question. I know I am frequently more in tune with how to play it to the advantage I desire, and that is most certainly a fault.
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That's a difficult question. I know I am frequently more in tune with how to play it to the advantage I desire, and that is most certainly a fault.
Ah, I wouldn't beat myself up too bad about it. I think there's a thread of that kind of thinking running through all of us. It does tend to lead to the kind of adversarial behavior we have running through our society these days and that's unfortunate.
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It does tend to lead to the kind of adversarial behavior we have running through our society these days
Who you calling adversarial, you liberal jerkwad!
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