The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 113

SacTown Chronic · 08-08-2006, 04:18 PM

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Not Afraid · 08-08-2006, 04:18 PM

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SacTown Chronic · 08-08-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Joe called it a 'Rovian tactic'.

Rove would sabotage his own candidate's website and blame the opponent for it. In fact, substitute "break into own candidate's office" for "sabotage own candidate's website" and you'd have a tactic that Karl has already used.

Drince88 · 08-08-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by €uroMeinke

There are elections?

I'm with you - they just started the push for registration for our Sept elections - though it will be interesting to see if William Jefferson (not yet indicted) will get to the run off for his post. I think it'll depend on how many 'I don't live there, have no clue when I'm coming back, but still want to vote there' voters there are.

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 08:08 PM

Well, it is official - Leiberman lost somewhere around 52-48%.

He is now expected to announce an independent bid for the general election as earl as tomorrow.

McKinney got her but kicked, 58-42%

innerSpaceman · 08-08-2006, 08:29 PM

I hope nobody in Conn. falls for Liebowitz's selfish gambit. Last time a Dem lost the primary and ran independent in Connecticut, the Dem and the "Independent" split the Dem vote, and the Republican won.

Bah.

CoasterMatt · 08-08-2006, 09:20 PM

Hail Xenu!

scaeagles · 08-08-2006, 09:56 PM

I suppose Leiberman is being selfish. You could say that about any third party candidate, though. Ralph Nadar arguably gave Bush his victory over Gore (no, I'm not really interested in debating again if the election was stolen - I'm just pointing out that without Nadar in it Gore wins). Ross Perot gave Clinton the White House the first time.

Does this mean you are against third party candidates? Honestly, how many have a chance to win? Leiberman, however, has a clear chance to win. In 2000, even while running simulataneously for President, he won 63-37, about 2/3 of the vote. If he takes all that he got in this primary and adds in half the independent voters, he probably wins.

Personally, I think he's nuts to do it. If he loses, he's done politically and won't even get a cushy ambassadorship anywhere. If he wins, he's a man without a party in the Senate, meaning he has no power. I could see him winning and the dems urging him back into the fold, though.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-08-2006, 10:07 PM

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I suppose Leiberman is being selfish. You could say that about any third party candidate, though. Ralph Nadar arguably gave Bush his victory over Gore (no, I'm not really interested in debating again if the election was stolen - I'm just pointing out that without Nadar in it Gore wins).

Bah, I don't buy that, especially when it was that close. Addition or subtraction of a 3rd party is NEVER a simple math equation. Changes the whole dynamic. I mean, I know it's just a hypothetical, but you can't just move Nadar voters to their respective sides.

BarTopDancer · 08-08-2006, 10:09 PM

One of these days enough people are going to be annoyed enough with the Dems and the Pubs and vote for the 3rd party "just because" and he'll win.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I suppose Leiberman is being selfish. You could say that about any third party candidate, though. Ralph Nadar arguably gave Bush his victory over Gore (no, I'm not really interested in debating again if the election was stolen - I'm just pointing out that without Nadar in it Gore wins). Ross Perot gave Clinton the White House the first time. Does this mean you are against third party candidates? Honestly, how many have a chance to win? Leiberman, however, has a clear chance to win. In 2000, even while running simulataneously for President, he won 63-37, about 2/3 of the vote. If he takes all that he got in this primary and adds in half the independent voters, he probably wins. Personally, I think he's nuts to do it. If he loses, he's done politically and won't even get a cushy ambassadorship anywhere. If he wins, he's a man without a party in the Senate, meaning he has no power. I could see him winning and the dems urging him back into the fold, though.
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