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Old 08-11-2006, 08:45 AM   #161
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even if it was accurate?
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I know I shouldn't repsond to this because you're just a right wing trouble maker who's looking for an excuse to ruffle feathers, but yes, even if it was accurate. If the environment described in the preface bothers you, don't post. If you don't have a problem with it, just post and accept the reality of the environment you're posting in.

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Sure, even if it's accurate. If the environment described in the preface bothers you, don't post. If you don't have a problem with it, just post and accept the reality of the environment you're posting in.




Now, which of those responses is a contribution to a discussion, and which is a dismissive quip likely to just cause pointless argument?
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:46 AM   #162
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Ahh.....but the story wasn't about planes that didn't crash, it was about a foiled plot to make planes crash. When CNN starts reporting that flight 817 from Phoenix to Las Vegas made it without a hitch I think the air travel industry is in real trouble. Also, if it becomes so common place that foiling such a plot is no longer news worthy, the air travel industry is bigger trouble.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:46 AM   #163
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With one major difference....there's an active WMD in Sacramento, baby.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:49 AM   #164
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That's all fine except that Bush's daddy wrote many years earlier why we didn't invade Iraq after Kuwait.
This is true. However, in light of the intelligence (and I'll admit it wasn't accurate assuming that you admit it was from intelligence services all over the world, not just ours), I wonder if the invasion would have seemed worth the risk to the elder Bush.

edited to add: I'm still not convinced that the Russians didn't help the Iraqis move the stuff to Syria in the weeks preceding the invasion, but that's another story.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:52 AM   #165
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I wonder if the invasion would have seemed worth the risk to the elder Bush.
Being that he seemed to have a much better grasp of foreign policy and had more of an ability to see the big picture, I highly doubt it. But we'll never know for sure, I suppose.
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Old 08-11-2006, 08:55 AM   #166
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edited to add: I'm still not convinced that the Russians didn't help the Iraqis move the stuff to Syria in the weeks preceding the invasion, but that's another story.
And they call us conspiracy theorists.

Seriously though, what would the motivation have been, in your opinion, to do something this bold right after 9/11?
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:01 AM   #167
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Response #1
I know I shouldn't repsond to this because you're just a right wing trouble maker who's looking for an excuse to ruffle feathers, but yes, even if it was accurate. If the environment described in the preface bothers you, don't post. If you don't have a problem with it, just post and accept the reality of the environment you're posting in.

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Sure, even if it's accurate. If the environment described in the preface bothers you, don't post. If you don't have a problem with it, just post and accept the reality of the environment you're posting in.




Now, which of those responses is a contribution to a discussion, and which is a dismissive quip likely to just cause pointless argument?
Meh- I was just playing around anyway. I know the environment- and I post anyway (actually- maybe in spite of it I post anyway)

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They've picked up alot of those missing Egyptian students....wonder what will come of all that.

..and harkening back to that "joke" World Trade Center movie opens strong (stronger than expected)
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:05 AM   #168
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Seriously though, what would the motivation have been, in your opinion, to do something this bold right after 9/11?
Are you speaking in terms of the Russians helping Iraq move stuff to Syria?

Iraq spent lots of money on Russian tech. The cash poor Russians are willing to sell them anything. I think much of the equipment being used was Russian and that in the light of sanctions against Iraq the Russians could not afford the international and diplomatic black eye of the Iraqis getting caught with it.

In looking at the oil for food program where money earmarked for humanitarian purposes was spent on French and Russian munitions, I don't find it my scenario hard to believe at all.

Much easier to believe than the US government orchestrating 9/11.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:37 AM   #169
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:16 AM   #170
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What about spontaneous human combustion? - once the terrorists master that, we shall never fly again
Ah yes. And this is the heart of the issue. Honestly. We can never be 100% safe. We come up with new regulations. They will find a new way around them. They will start swallowing the bombs and figure out how to detonate them with their sunglasses.

We just need to keep on keeping on.
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