The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 117

scaeagles · 08-15-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

Pardon me, but "we" didn't disrupt anything. Why is he taking credit for something that the British uncovered? I've read nothing to suggest that the US played a role in uncovering this plot.

I have read that the US gave a whole bunch of intercepted communications to the Britishm, but as I am not very informed right now, it is possible that was retracted or changed.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 02:30 AM

I would be interested in a cite but I know this isn't exactly the best time to ask. You've got a full enough plate. I'll see if I can find one so you don't have to worry about it.

And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I have read that the US gave a whole bunch of intercepted communications to the Britishm, but as I am not very informed right now, it is possible that was retracted or changed.

As of yet, I have been able to find any mention of anyone but british and Pakistani intelligence uncovering this plot who then promptly turned over the information to the US. All I could find was this ambiguous quote from (surprise) Fox News that a few bloggers insist is proof of US involvement:

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After the first arrests in Pakistan some days ago, word went from Pakistan to the London plotters to move ahead quickly, a message intercepted by an intelligence agency, a U.S. official disclosed on condition of anonymity. That prompted British police to move in on the conspirators, long under watch.

But notice that the article doesn't specifically say a "U.S." intelligence agency, rather just some intelligence agency from somewhere intercepted the message. How nice of Fox to let readers fill in their own details about what happened.

I'm even more convinced now that we were the last ones to hear about this. If someone elses google skills can prove otherwise, I'm willing to change my opinion.

scaeagles · 08-16-2006, 05:42 AM

In the interests of full disclosure, I have also read that British Intelligence was reluctant to share the intelligence they had with us for fear it would be leaked. Can't say I blame them, really.

scaeagles · 08-16-2006, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.

I'm actually not even starting a new job. I just figured my absence was the only real way to convert you all.

innerSpaceman · 08-16-2006, 06:59 AM

Time reports that sharing of British and U.S. intelligence on this matter was vital to uncovering the plot and that, in fact, it was the Bush administration's quite successful no-leak policy that encouraged the British to share with the U.S. as much as they did. Time further reports that it was indeed U.S. communication intercepts that aided this effort immensely.*

So, I'm fine if Bush brags.

It's when certain politicians go further to say that this vote or that will result in your mother dying in terrorist carnage that I have a problem with.

* sorry, no link. I'm an old-fashioned guy with a magazine in my hands ... and I believe you have to be a subscriber to access Time online.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 09:30 AM

I stand corrected then. Thanks for the info, iSm.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-16-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'm actually not even starting a new job. I just figured my absence was the only real way to convert you all.

You would do something like that.

Gemini Cricket · 08-16-2006, 01:40 PM

Detained for 5 years after 9/11 and he's innocent. Yikes!

Gemini Cricket · 08-16-2006, 01:56 PM

Apparently someone was just arrested in the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Interesting.

I'm wondering if this will motivate OJ to find Nicole's killer...

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Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	I would be interested in a cite but I know this isn't exactly the best time to ask. You've got a full enough plate. I'll see if I can find one so you don't have to worry about it. And might I add how strange and ucky it feels to go looking for evidence to back up your assertion for you.
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08-16-2006, 05:42 AM	#1164
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	In the interests of full disclosure, I have also read that British Intelligence was reluctant to share the intelligence they had with us for fear it would be leaked. Can't say I blame them, really.
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08-16-2006, 06:59 AM	#1166
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Time reports that sharing of British and U.S. intelligence on this matter was vital to uncovering the plot and that, in fact, it was the Bush administration's quite successful no-leak policy that encouraged the British to share with the U.S. as much as they did. Time further reports that it was indeed U.S. communication intercepts that aided this effort immensely.* So, I'm fine if Bush brags. It's when certain politicians go further to say that this vote or that will result in your mother dying in terrorist carnage that I have a problem with. * sorry, no link. I'm an old-fashioned guy with a magazine in my hands ... and I believe you have to be a subscriber to access Time online.
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08-16-2006, 09:30 AM	#1167
Motorboat Cruiser Cruiser of Motorboats Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 3,665	I stand corrected then. Thanks for the info, iSm.
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08-16-2006, 01:40 PM	#1169
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Detained for 5 years after 9/11 and he's innocent. Yikes!
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08-16-2006, 01:56 PM	#1170
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Apparently someone was just arrested in the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Interesting. I'm wondering if this will motivate OJ to find Nicole's killer...
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