More 9/11 tapes released

Kevy Baby · 08-17-2006, 12:57 PM

I still won't listen, or see any of the movies. I can't handle it.

I won't even watch comercials for the movies - it has that much of an affect on me.

Alex · 08-17-2006, 01:10 PM

Last weekend's This American Life was about death and one of the segments was a guy who compiled transcripts from the cockpit voice recorders from some number of plane crashes.

It was interesting but one segment that he read was the technical back and forth of them trying to save the plane and then right before the recording ends the co-pilot says "I love you Ann."

Even read in transcript form it was very moving and Lani was crying in the car (as she did again at another one where a Turkish pilot started singing a lullaby once it became clear his fate was unavoidable).

But apparently this is the only transcript in the book that included such personal statements by the cockpit crew so Ira Glass asked about that. It turns out that the NTSB redacts the transcripts to remove personal and emotional statements unless it bears directly on the technical issues at hand. Those are released to the families if they want to hear it but otherwise it is considered private.

I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-17-2006, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.

I agree. I hope they gave the families of those identified on the tapes the right of refusal for releasing segments with their voice.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-17-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.

I completely agree. I've watched exactly one show about 9/11 and that was the documentary that was by the two french filmmakers who were shooting a documentary about NYC firefighters on 9/11 and were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was heartwrenching and all I will ever need to see about what happened that day for it to be forever etched into my memory.

These types of "news items" serve absolutely no necessary purpose and I really find the playing of them for the purpose of ratings to be more than offensive.

BarTopDancer · 08-17-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.

I can't listen to them. I can barely watch the commercials for the new movie. On some aspects, it will always be *too soon* for me. I don't see anything gained by playing these tapes for the public.

I did hear somewhere that there were segments removed at the request of families.

tracilicious · 08-17-2006, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.

Ditto on this. I don't see how the general public has any right to hear these tapes.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Last weekend's This American Life was about death and one of the segments was a guy who compiled transcripts from the cockpit voice recorders from some number of plane crashes. It was interesting but one segment that he read was the technical back and forth of them trying to save the plane and then right before the recording ends the co-pilot says "I love you Ann." Even read in transcript form it was very moving and Lani was crying in the car (as she did again at another one where a Turkish pilot started singing a lullaby once it became clear his fate was unavoidable). But apparently this is the only transcript in the book that included such personal statements by the cockpit crew so Ira Glass asked about that. It turns out that the NTSB redacts the transcripts to remove personal and emotional statements unless it bears directly on the technical issues at hand. Those are released to the families if they want to hear it but otherwise it is considered private. I have no interest in hearing these 9/11 calls. It would just be a morbid voyeurism that I don't think I could stomach. They should be released to families if they want them. Information useful for future training should be gleaned, but I can't think of any actual news value in playing these tapes for general consumption.
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