The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 120

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-17-2006, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

The Justice Dept is going to appeal the ruling... No surprise.

And a stacked Supreme Court will eventually come in very handy.

Alex · 08-17-2006, 12:21 PM

So the rulings you agree with are obvious but the ones you disagree with are political?

For the record, I agree with this one.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-17-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

So the rulings you agree with are obvious but the ones you disagree with are political?

For the record, I agree with this one.

No, I'm simply annoyed by the lack of balance. The republicans hold all of the cards in all three branches of Government and it's impossible to have any degree of fairness in that type of environment. The other two branches can be fixed, and in fact, I would have less of a problem with a republican president and democrat controlled congress (or vice versa) than what we have right now. And with the SC leaning decidedly right, I fear that the abuse of power will continue to go unchecked.

Then again, the supreme court has surprised me before.

Alex · 08-22-2006, 11:25 AM

I really, really hate civil forfeiture laws. I hate the anti-drug laws but these are even worse especially since they are generally used to further punish crimes that shouldn't be crimes in the first place (such as confiscating the cars of johns in prostitution stings).

Not Afraid · 08-22-2006, 11:45 AM

I heard about 5 minutes of a Q&A with dear George yesterday and literally had to turn it off. I would rather have listened to Ruth Seymore pitch for funds that hear the President not make sense. When will he get that 9/11 is not justification for the current war?

Nephythys · 08-22-2006, 12:37 PM

I'm glad someone understands that terrorism was not just a 9/11 event- and knows that more needs to be done.

wendybeth · 08-22-2006, 01:33 PM

I'm glad I'm not so frightened as to be so quick to give up my liberties. Sign away yours if you will, but leave mine the **** alone. As far as I'm concerned, the terrorists win when you give up all that you are supposed to stand for. They point to us and say "See? They are not free- their government spies on them and detains them and withholds all those precious rights they hold so dear". Some role model for democracy we are.

Nephythys · 08-22-2006, 02:00 PM

I have not lost a single damn liberty- and have not touched anything of yours.

Thanks

Not Afraid · 08-22-2006, 02:20 PM

At least he conceeded that Sadam did not have a part in 9/11. About time. But, he still had a fear mongering response.

Oh, and the Katrina discussion was just GROSS! Get off your ass and make something happen! It's been a YEAR for Christ's sake!

He frustrates the living HELL out of me. I've disliked presidents in th past, but I've NEVER felt the complete and total disgust I feel the George W Bush.

wendybeth · 08-22-2006, 02:45 PM

Well, if you or anyone in your family ever get detained indefinitely for no given reason by the authorities, or if you are ever under surveillance by the government and your private conversations and records gone through, I'll bet you'll not be so happy about your chosen leader. Maybe by then the next leader will be a lib- would you feel good about them being able to spy on your political activities then? It works so long as the party you belong to is in control, when the leadership changes it may be more problematic, depending what the new leadership is looking for.

08-17-2006, 12:21 PM	#1192
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	So the rulings you agree with are obvious but the ones you disagree with are political? For the record, I agree with this one.
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08-22-2006, 11:25 AM	#1194
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I really, really hate civil forfeiture laws. I hate the anti-drug laws but these are even worse especially since they are generally used to further punish crimes that shouldn't be crimes in the first place (such as confiscating the cars of johns in prostitution stings).
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08-22-2006, 11:45 AM	#1195
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	I heard about 5 minutes of a Q&A with dear George yesterday and literally had to turn it off. I would rather have listened to Ruth Seymore pitch for funds that hear the President not make sense. When will he get that 9/11 is not justification for the current war?
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08-22-2006, 12:37 PM	#1196
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I'm glad someone understands that terrorism was not just a 9/11 event- and knows that more needs to be done.
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08-22-2006, 01:33 PM	#1197
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	I'm glad I'm not so frightened as to be so quick to give up my liberties. Sign away yours if you will, but leave mine the **** alone. As far as I'm concerned, the terrorists win when you give up all that you are supposed to stand for. They point to us and say "See? They are not free- their government spies on them and detains them and withholds all those precious rights they hold so dear". Some role model for democracy we are. __________________
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08-22-2006, 02:00 PM	#1198
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	I have not lost a single damn liberty- and have not touched anything of yours. Thanks
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08-22-2006, 02:20 PM	#1199
Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	At least he conceeded that Sadam did not have a part in 9/11. About time. But, he still had a fear mongering response. Oh, and the Katrina discussion was just GROSS! Get off your ass and make something happen! It's been a YEAR for Christ's sake! He frustrates the living HELL out of me. I've disliked presidents in th past, but I've NEVER felt the complete and total disgust I feel the George W Bush.
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08-22-2006, 02:45 PM	#1200
wendybeth Nevermind Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,847	Well, if you or anyone in your family ever get detained indefinitely for no given reason by the authorities, or if you are ever under surveillance by the government and your private conversations and records gone through, I'll bet you'll not be so happy about your chosen leader. Maybe by then the next leader will be a lib- would you feel good about them being able to spy on your political activities then? It works so long as the party you belong to is in control, when the leadership changes it may be more problematic, depending what the new leadership is looking for. __________________
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