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Old 09-11-2006, 08:10 PM   #81
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U.S. President George W. Bush and first lady Laura Bush stand on a carpet commemorating the date of the attacks of September 11, 2001 outside the Ladder Company 10 firehouse opposite the site of the World Trade Center in New York, September 10, 2006. Bush lay a wreath at Ground Zero before visiting a chapel for a memorial service. REUTERS/Jason Reed (UNITED STATES)
I'm going to watch the unedited version of the miniseries tomorrow - I'll post a review if necessary...
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:48 PM   #82
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Fahrenheit 9/11 is a documentary.
No its not. It is a dramatization and is filled with as many lies and misleading BS as "Path" is purported to have.
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Old 09-11-2006, 09:59 PM   #83
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:34 PM   #84
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Yeah, with all the claims of falsehood that were made about F911, I've never seen much substantiation.

Then again, I'm not sure there's substantiation for any of the falsehood claims about Path to 9/11 either ... I mean beyond people claiming for themselves they've been defamed. Hardly unbiased opinions.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:37 PM   #85
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59 Deceipts in Farenheit 9/11

Debunking 59 Deceipts in Fahrenheit 9/11

Between the two, everybody should be able to find the truth that best fits what is already believed.
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Old 09-12-2006, 04:59 AM   #86
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Then again, I'm not sure there's substantiation for any of the falsehood claims about Path to 9/11 either ... I mean beyond people claiming for themselves they've been defamed. Hardly unbiased opinions.
The only way you can make that claim is to throw the 9/11 Commission report out the window.

Have you read the report?
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:16 AM   #87
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Why do you lend that report such credence, Scrooge? Granted, it is the "official" government report, but you are hardly one to take the "official" government word on anything.
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:53 AM   #88
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...you are hardly one to take the "official" government word on anything.
I'm not sure how you've come away with that impression, but let me clear something up for you.

Since you and I have been talking, we've been under Republican rule. First Congress, then the President and now the Supreme Court. The republican line has been the government line. Healthy skies means permission to put more sludge into the air. Healthy Forests means the right to cut old growth forests. I reject Republican talking points.

The 9/11 commission, besides being manned by members of both parties, is based on interviews with the people involved, whose testimonies have been preserved. One party was not allowed to run over the other. I don't think it's the unvarnished truth, but it's as close as we'll ever get. The fact that Republican operatives have been lying about it, unchallenged by the media, makes me give it even more credibility.
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Old 09-12-2006, 06:55 AM   #89
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I would conjecture-

*had this movie been a Michael Moore type "documentary", which blamed Bush and laid 9/11 at his feet, many would have suggested it as must see viewing.

*That those who told me to ignore certain facts about Gore and pay attention to his bigger message about global warming- do not take their own advice and see the bigger message in this movie.

No- I did not watch it. I have had better things to do than sit my butt down for 5 hours of TV- but I suspect that there is some truth to my conjecture.

Wait- I thought someone said this got "trounced" in ratings-

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FLASH: ABC 'PATH TO 9-11' TOP RATED SHOW OF MONDAY NIGHT... 8.3 RATING/12 SHARE FOR ABC MOVIE, BEAT 'CSI: MIAMI' RERUN [6.8/11] AND NBC 9-11 'DATELINE' [3.7/6]... DEVELOPING...
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Old 09-12-2006, 07:03 AM   #90
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So it is a dem vs. republican thing rather than a distrust of government in general. Got it.

I suppose my problem is that you have people being interviewed that want to pull a CYA by a commission with members that want to pull a CYA.

I don't really know what he answer is. The whole special prosecutor stuff was enacted to avoid the government investigating the government, but that is typically worse. Fill in the example that you beleie fits best.
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