Nothing like proving the point-

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

So, it's OK to paint all Muslims with the same brush as you did above but it's not OK do paint Christians with same said brush? Or, am I missing something very important here?

yes, you missed something, I did not say all Muslims-I didn't. You made an assumption.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

yes, you missed something, I did not say all Muslims-I didn't. You made an assumption.

No, but you implied that the Muslim religion has some special property in it, as opposed to any other religion, that predilects it. And THAT'S the point of bringing up the Crusades. Obviously it has nothing to do with Christianity now. And obviously, as I mentioned, the extremist Islam movement is the most motivated and organized currently. But the crusades, the holocaust, and countless other examples disprove the notion that Islam is somehow special in that regard. At this time in history, that's where the religion is, but it's not a unique feature of the religion by any stretch.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

No, but you implied that the Muslim religion has some special property in it, as opposed to any other religion, that predilects it. And THAT'S the point of bringing up the Crusades. Obviously it has nothing to do with Christianity now. And obviously, as I mentioned, the extremist Islam movement is the most motivated and organized currently. But the crusades, the holocaust, and countless other examples disprove the notion that Islam is somehow special in that regard. At this time in history, that's where the religion is, but it's not a unique feature of the religion by any stretch.

No- I said that no other modern religion reacts with mob violence and threats of death or actual murder these days. Though if you want to start taking the Koran apart there are many verses that encourage and support that violence.

Sadly the Muslim faith has been like this for a long time- they just have scarier weapons now.

It just seems ironic, and throwing other faiths in is IMO a distraction. The Pope cites a quote that says that Islam is evil and inhuman and in response some Muslims demand his death- they demand his execution as the only way to right the "wrong" which I think- turns around and proves the point of the quote.

You come to me, and say that Christianity is evil and inhuman, and I'll likely be annoyed...but I sure as hell don't think Christians will rise up and demand your death as atonement.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

No- I said that no other modern religion reacts with mob violence and threats of death or actual murder these days.

Violent anti-aborition protests by "christians" who claim the bible says that life begins at conception? Organized abortion clinic bombings?

Violent gay bashings by "christians" who claim the bible says being gay is a sin?

All in the name of the bible. Any of that ring a bell?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Organized abortion clinic bombings?

By whom? I know clinics have (very rarely) been bombed (though rarity does not make it OK), but there have been organized conspiracies by large groups repeatedly? Why haven't I heard about that?

And the fact that you put "Christian" in quotes is a good thing. I would suppose many call themselves Christians and have no idea what it is to be so, those who bomb clinics included of course. Christian leadership will typically speak out against such actions and be asked if they condemn it, and they do (there are the odd exceptions, though). Islamic leaders either will not condemn it or will not address it. I don't hear any of them condemning it.