Alito - Page 10

Gemini Cricket · 02-01-2006, 07:47 AM

Yes, the attempt was symbolic. I'd rather them do this than do nothing or say nothing.

I think the Democrats should make their voice heard to the president whenever they get a chance. The man's in his own world. They need to speak louder, it's hard to hear when you live in a bubble.

The vote for Alito is a vote against our privacy and a woman's right to choose. I even doubt his stance on civil rights issues...

Our Supreme Court Justices need to support our Constitution and not make decisions based on religious ideology, partisan politics and allegiances with high powered politicians. ie. Duck hunting, anyone?

Ghoulish Delight · 02-01-2006, 09:08 AM

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GD....interesting analogy. What would the board have done then? All you can do is look at the qualifications of the individual. No one has a crystal ball (example: David Souter, the worst justice on the court, IMO).

Perhaps my final question should have better been, "Having left Disney and applying for the CEO postition of your entertainment company, would you vote to approve him." There's no crystal ball necessary, we know Alito's track record.

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To dismiss intelligent people who disagree with you is to eliminate debate. I find that disturbing.

But that's why 99 other people vote. That's where the debate is. What disturbs me is the Republicans saying that Dean was "politicking" by encouraging others to vote the way he was voting. Umm, isn't that the point of the Senate debates? Aren't the Senators obligated to vote the way they feel is right and attempt to convince others of the same?

As an individual, were my vote to count, I could not in good conscience vote for someone who's interpretation of the Constitution is so fundamentally different from mine. I'm not talking about a case or two, or a disagreement on a phrase here and there. I'm talking about a complete disconnect between how I think the document should be applied and how they do.

scaeagles · 02-01-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

There's no crystal ball necessary, we know Alito's track record.

Yes. We do. And I guess we view it differently.

Ghoulish Delight · 02-01-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Yes. We do. And I guess we view it differently.

Yup. You love Eisner. I love Disney. I'm glad we've come that that understanding.

scaeagles · 02-01-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Yup. You love Eisner. I love Disney. I'm glad we've come that that understanding.

Hmmm....once again, you have proven your ability to misinterpret what's right before you.

SacTown Chronic · 02-01-2006, 09:58 AM

I'm tickled pink at his confirmation.

Maybe now all these uppity American women will be put in their place -- we know what's best for their bodies. Better recognize, beyotch.

And that ass kicker GWB will now have all the presidential power he could want. I cannot think of another person in American history who is more qualified to handle unchecked power. Just look at his life's work! He succeeds even when he fails. Baddass to the max, baby!

Fvcking A!

I'm so excited I think I'll go down to the 7-11 and beat the **** out of the slurpee Indian behind the counter. Terrorist sympathizer ain't fooling anybody with his reasonably priced snacks and cold beer. He loves America so much, why he selling Citgo gas in his parking lot? Feeding our addiction to foreign oil, that's what! (And anybody who has the nerve to point out that if it wasn't for big oil, Barbara Bush would have been forced to suck dick to come up with the money to pay the Bush family mortgage is just a hater)

God (not Allah, you mother****er) bless the USA!!!!

scaeagles · 02-01-2006, 10:01 AM

Having a bad day, Sac?

Alex · 02-01-2006, 10:19 AM

It depends on what the alternatives were but if presented with the opportunity to hire Eisner to run my entertainment conglomerate I'd be heavily inclined to do so.

I don't support Alito's political views on many issues but can't think of a good reason to oppose his appointment. Heck, one of the architects of the Japanese internment during World War II and a strick law-and-order man was appointed chief justice by a Republican and immediately produced Brown v. Board of Education, Miranda, and a slew of decisions viewed as the most liberal (and activist) in the court's history.

I've said before that while I support access to abortion I don't support Roe v. Wade and think the federal and state legislatures are the appropriate venue for settling the issue so I'm not particularly bothered by the thought of Wade being overtly overturned, though I do think it unlikely that it will be.

I am concerned about overly broad interpretation of executive power but I also think that executive power has been overbroad since FDR and during time of war since the very beginning (the major concern here is that war is currently being defined in a way that makes it perpetual not periodic).

innerSpaceman · 02-01-2006, 11:55 AM

Nail on head there. The Court may rule that the president has unlimited power in wartime, and the President may declare that wartime is permanent. Dictatorship achieved in 5 easy steps.

The Shadoe · 02-01-2006, 08:18 PM

It looks like Alito has split with Conservatives on his first day: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/01/D8FGN8509.html

02-01-2006, 07:47 AM	#91
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	Yes, the attempt was symbolic. I'd rather them do this than do nothing or say nothing. I think the Democrats should make their voice heard to the president whenever they get a chance. The man's in his own world. They need to speak louder, it's hard to hear when you live in a bubble. The vote for Alito is a vote against our privacy and a woman's right to choose. I even doubt his stance on civil rights issues... Our Supreme Court Justices need to support our Constitution and not make decisions based on religious ideology, partisan politics and allegiances with high powered politicians. ie. Duck hunting, anyone?
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02-01-2006, 09:58 AM	#96
SacTown Chronic the myth of the dream Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,217	I'm tickled pink at his confirmation. Maybe now all these uppity American women will be put in their place -- we know what's best for their bodies. Better recognize, beyotch. And that ass kicker GWB will now have all the presidential power he could want. I cannot think of another person in American history who is more qualified to handle unchecked power. Just look at his life's work! He succeeds even when he fails. Baddass to the max, baby! Fvcking A! I'm so excited I think I'll go down to the 7-11 and beat the ** out of the slurpee Indian behind the counter. Terrorist sympathizer ain't fooling anybody with his reasonably priced snacks and cold beer. He loves America so much, why he selling Citgo gas in his parking lot? Feeding our addiction to foreign oil, that's what! (And anybody who has the nerve to point out that if it wasn't for big oil, Barbara Bush would have been forced to suck dick to come up with the money to pay the Bush family mortgage is just a hater) God (not Allah, you mother*er) bless the USA!!!! __________________ Is it the fingers, or the brain that you're teaching a lesson?*
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02-01-2006, 10:01 AM	#97
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Having a bad day, Sac?
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02-01-2006, 10:19 AM	#98
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	It depends on what the alternatives were but if presented with the opportunity to hire Eisner to run my entertainment conglomerate I'd be heavily inclined to do so. I don't support Alito's political views on many issues but can't think of a good reason to oppose his appointment. Heck, one of the architects of the Japanese internment during World War II and a strick law-and-order man was appointed chief justice by a Republican and immediately produced Brown v. Board of Education, Miranda, and a slew of decisions viewed as the most liberal (and activist) in the court's history. I've said before that while I support access to abortion I don't support Roe v. Wade and think the federal and state legislatures are the appropriate venue for settling the issue so I'm not particularly bothered by the thought of Wade being overtly overturned, though I do think it unlikely that it will be. I am concerned about overly broad interpretation of executive power but I also think that executive power has been overbroad since FDR and during time of war since the very beginning (the major concern here is that war is currently being defined in a way that makes it perpetual not periodic).
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02-01-2006, 11:55 AM	#99
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Nail on head there. The Court may rule that the president has unlimited power in wartime, and the President may declare that wartime is permanent. Dictatorship achieved in 5 easy steps.
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02-01-2006, 08:18 PM	#100
The Shadoe Save Marshall Field's! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 72	It looks like Alito has split with Conservatives on his first day: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/01/D8FGN8509.html __________________ I am The Shadoe.
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