Kid suspended for drawing a gun

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by AllyOops!

Example: Am I going to get suspended at my favorite Board because you guys know now that I'm a gun owner?

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I use Columbine as an example because it was one of the worst events dealing with students and guns.

But is Columbine the EXCEPTION or is it an indicator of a prevalent problem? I think the extremity of the crime served as a bit of a wake up call, but it is still just an aberration (IMO).

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

Which means I merely influenced others to do mischief.

I was real good at doing mischief but not getting caught.

[SacTown Chronic]

I miss the innocent, carefree days of yesteryear when America knew Hanging Chad only as the male talent in a Linda Lovelace flick. Le sigh.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

CP ~ I went to a private school. Nuns and priests. And yes, they were all like that. I got hit if we did stuff wrong...

Then, dude, I love you and all, but I have to say, if that's the model you were shown, then there's no reconciling it, eh?

How can you possibly say that that nothing has changed from then and now? Nothing Columbine-esque happened when I was in school. Kids weren't packing when I was in school. Maybe the odd bee bee gun or slingshot but not real guns.

So what? It could have happened at any time. The ability for a child to bring a parent's gun to school has always been possible. Are you going to feel differently about schools because of a few aberrations (thanks Kevy for the word), because it actually happened? I, personally, do not. I am not going to let fear change my view of this world. Nothing has changed for me, whether I'm sending a future kid to school or getting on a plane. If it does change in my head, I'm living in fear, and that's not only pointless, it's destructive.

You keep bringing up examples and I keep telling you that anything inappropriate that gets turned in to a teacher is fair game. I'm handing this paper to you and it has a gun on it. That's a threat in my book. Especially when it isn't in context with what was written. ie. An illustration of a gun in a creative writing story.

I understand that, you have said that over and over, and you still haven't answered my question about where to draw the line. I'm not going to keep repeating myself, and should probably stop posting, as we aren't getting anywhere. If your standard of measure is Catholic private school, I don't expect it to go any further anyway.

Love you Brad.

[Capt Jack]

rather than beginning a new thread...as a non-parent, this article strikes me as more of the same

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...07/detail.html
Tag (the game) Banned in elementary school

to say "I dont get it" falls far short of my thoughts. bitch about overweight kids then ban the games that actually have them running...


I just dont get it. someone please explain WTF is going on with parenting and kids now. soon I foresee children in full body condoms, blindfolded and being under house arrest until they graduate college "to keep them safe"

then having complete mental breakdowns the first time they miss a green traffic signal

I just dont get it

[Matterhorn Fan]

I never cared much for tag, so I never played it. If somone "tagged" me, I wouldn't chase them back. Problem solved. If these kids don't want to be chased, they shouldn't run.

[Capt Jack]

right! or play something else....or go read or go...to the bathroom and sulk...whatever....

but c'mon.....banning tag? is the world that big of an oversensitive pussy now? and if so....dont you think this stuff is what made them that way??

/rant off

[SacTown Chronic]

You ever tell a three year old to go out for a pass and then drill him in the back of the head with a Nerf football? Good times.

[Capt Jack]

um...well, yeah. I have

[AllyOops!]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Are you prepared to use it before it's taken from you and used against you? I saw this video where a fellow robbed a convenience store with a shotgun and set the shotgun down on the counter while he bagged the money that the clerk gave him. The clerk took the shotgun and pointed it at the guy. The guy ran out of the store. Ten seconds later, he came back, hopped the counter and started struggling for the shotgun before deciding to leave again. I guess he thought--to the extent he did think--that the clerk did not seem like the type to shoot him.

No, I don't believe you are truly ever prepared for a situation like that until it occurs and you are actually in the moment. I pray to God that I am never in it.

Every situation is different and you can't compare any of them. It's really easy to say "Oh, I would have said this, or done that" when you yourself are not immersed in the situation. I can honestly tell you that I have no clue how I would act when staring down the barell of a gun, or if I had the barell aimed at somebody else. Honestly? I don't ever want to find out. When your adrenaline is rushing, when it's a matter of life or death, it's a whole other ball of wax, so to speak.

So, yes, somebody might overpower me, turn my gun on me, and end my life, or leave me in a vegetative state. GOD FORBID.

Or, I might fire it in self-defense. I know that I couldn't live a normal life if I took somebody else's, even in self-defense. I know the type of person that I am and how sensitive I can be. Nobody enjoyes brandishing a weapon and threatening to use it. I know I would never want to!

But you know what? they should of thought of that risk before climbing into a window and deciding to inflict harm on somebody.

I have zero sympathy toward criminals who engage in this behavior. I'm certainly not angry, ranting or unleashing at anybody here, because everybody has a right to their opinion. It's criminal activity that gets my blood boiling.

There's no right answer to this. Because NOBODY knows what they would do unless they have been there, done it, and have lived to tell it.

[Capt Jack]

yes, I have firearms in my home for defense of my own life and that of my family and I have indeed been in a situation where a firearm was (in my opinion and upon reflection) the best option in the circumstance. however, as a gun owner I also strongly believe that if I feel threatened to the point where I so strongly felt the need to produce and use it (which luckily I didnt have to), then I also feel confident that, while I would take little joy in it, I would also have little remorse in such a situation.

mostly because I feel in my heart of hearts that it is they that created said situation, not I. I just happened to be prepared.

so yes, in the situation the clerk faced, I'd have shot him and felt little remorse although I'd have been very angry that HE made me do so.