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innerSpaceman · 07-17-2008, 06:25 AM

Why isn't this the place for it?

Personally, while I have a problem with any one claiming they didn't know they could be heard while they're wearing a microphone in any state of presumed operational status ... I have no problem with any person of color using the N word casually.

In case you didn't notice, they get a pass on that. And i think that's a great development in the use of language.

scaeagles · 07-17-2008, 06:55 AM

Well, I do suppose that there have been enough derails in this thread.....

They certainly do get a pass. I suppose I get that, but I think it goes beyond that. Do you think Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice would get a pass from anyone for using the "N" word? Yet Robert Byrd seemed to. Jackson demanded the firing of Don Imus for his comments. Jackson is still treated as the go to guy on racial equality even though he is a racist himself, or at least by what I would figure to be "racially insensitive" by his own standards, using terms like "hymie town". Trent Lott got destroyed for praise of Strom Thurmond at the guy's birthday party (I think it was his birthday party).

Isn't racism racism regardless of who spews it forth?

innerSpaceman · 07-17-2008, 07:19 AM

Yes, it is. And while i think public figures would be foolish to express any kind of racism, the stuff directed at your own race or group is considered self-depricating, and thus allowed.

That doesn't include the use of nigher, which is not used as a racial epithet when bandied about among blacks.

But yeah, depending upon each individual statment, racism is racism is racism.

flippyshark · 07-17-2008, 07:22 AM

All well and good, except that Jackson didn't say THAT "N word." What he said was:

"Barack been talkin' down to black people. I wanna tear his nuts off."

Edited to add: Oh, now I read the news. Okay, so he used THAT N word. I still think the castration comment trumps that down to the ground.

Sorry for posting without knowing what the f I was talking about - DP

Scrooge McSam · 07-17-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Yet Robert Byrd seemed to.

What are you talking about?

scaeagles · 07-17-2008, 07:56 AM

Robert Byrd was interviewed a few years ago and referred to knowing many "N"s. It was washed over and aides said "oh, he was just tired".

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-17-2008, 08:04 AM

Jackson is a racist and an anti-semite. I have zero respect for the man and hate that he has any clout at all.

Strangler Lewis · 07-17-2008, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Jackson is a racist and an anti-semite. I have zero respect for the man and hate that he has any clout at all.

Well, in Jesse's defense, the middle aged, middle class Jews in my New York neighborhood in the late 60s/early 70s seemed to have little affinity for black causes or for the black children who were bused to my school, none of whom found their way into the gifted classes that were full of Jewish kids.

scaeagles · 07-17-2008, 08:35 AM

I don't think anyone denies that there is racism from any one race to another. Would the same defense be considered with some white kid growing up in a primarily minority neighborhood who was abused by that minority? Would it be acceptable to defensible if later in life that kid was a racist or uttered racial hatred because of his experiences?

innerSpaceman · 07-17-2008, 09:09 AM

Wow, i'm agreeing with scaeagles. Someone fetch me my blood pressure medicine.

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Well, I do suppose that there have been enough derails in this thread..... They certainly do get a pass. I suppose I get that, but I think it goes beyond that. Do you think Clarence Thomas or Condoleeza Rice would get a pass from anyone for using the "N" word? Yet Robert Byrd seemed to. Jackson demanded the firing of Don Imus for his comments. Jackson is still treated as the go to guy on racial equality even though he is a racist himself, or at least by what I would figure to be "racially insensitive" by his own standards, using terms like "hymie town". Trent Lott got destroyed for praise of Strom Thurmond at the guy's birthday party (I think it was his birthday party). Isn't racism racism regardless of who spews it forth?
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07-17-2008, 07:19 AM	#1363
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Yes, it is. And while i think public figures would be foolish to express any kind of racism, the stuff directed at your own race or group is considered self-depricating, and thus allowed. That doesn't include the use of nigher, which is not used as a racial epithet when bandied about among blacks. But yeah, depending upon each individual statment, racism is racism is racism.
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flippyshark Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 2,852	All well and good, except that Jackson didn't say THAT "N word." What he said was: "Barack been talkin' down to black people. I wanna tear his nuts off." Edited to add: Oh, now I read the news. Okay, so he used THAT N word. I still think the castration comment trumps that down to the ground. Sorry for posting without knowing what the f I was talking about - DP
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Robert Byrd was interviewed a few years ago and referred to knowing many "N"s. It was washed over and aides said "oh, he was just tired".
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Jackson is a racist and an anti-semite. I have zero respect for the man and hate that he has any clout at all. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I don't think anyone denies that there is racism from any one race to another. Would the same defense be considered with some white kid growing up in a primarily minority neighborhood who was abused by that minority? Would it be acceptable to defensible if later in life that kid was a racist or uttered racial hatred because of his experiences?
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Wow, i'm agreeing with scaeagles. Someone fetch me my blood pressure medicine.
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