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Moonliner · 03-26-2009, 01:07 PM

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I hope he's repaid the same courtesy when he loses a loved one.

I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

SzczerbiakManiac · 03-26-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

And why are users storing documents locally anyway?

I can answer that in two words: Politics & Budget
I won't bore you with the specifics. I agree with everything you're saying, but I'm through banging my head against a wall on it with TPTB here.

Snowflake · 03-26-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I'd like to see the dashboard footage of this stop and have independent verification as to the time of the stop and his mothers passing before passing judgement.

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.

Moonliner · 03-26-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behaviour of the police officer was and is appaling.

After watching the video:

Running a red light. Failure to stop. Aggressive behavior, Yelling. These things tend to upset officers. I see plenty of blame on both sides.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-26-2009, 01:35 PM

I just watched the video. A) You can't see the officer for most of it, but at no point does Moats react as if he has a gun pointed at him. B) His wife (whose mother it was) went immediately inside, so if it was possible to arrive on time to see her mother pass, she made it. C) At no point did Moats even attempt to cooperate with the officer, it was instant screaming and confrontation.

From what I could tell in the video, the officer handled it like he'd handle any stop. Cooperate and it will be done quickly, argue with me from moment one and forget it.

Kevy Baby · 03-26-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowflake

I do not know if the full video is there, but he article does link to the dashboard video of the event. No, I've not watched it.

even if it was 5 minutes time, or two or three, I think the behavior of the police officer was and is appalling.

On the surface it might seem that way. Personally, I would have to see the video.

Yes, some cops do overreact. But cops also get a LOT of people claiming that they are rushing to a dieing relative, or some other "excusable" reason for running a red light, speeding, etc.

OK, I watched (without audio) the first couple of minutes of the video.

The driver continued through SEVERAL red lights and stop signs without stopping
The driver had the cop following him with lights on for at least a full minute
The driver and passenger jumped out of the car and were in a frantic mode

With the three points above, the cop was justified (in my mind) to at least pull his gun.

Moonliner · 03-26-2009, 01:38 PM

After catching up with someone who refuses to stop, I expect it's fairly standard to approach with caution (ie gun drawn).

Ghoulish Delight · 03-26-2009, 01:40 PM

Especially when they then jump out of the car screaming at you.

Disneyphile · 03-26-2009, 02:01 PM

I think someone who is in shock over someone dying is not exactly going to be thinking calmly enough to "react appropriately" to a police officer. Shock and grief can completely override and cloud rational thought.

SzczerbiakManiac · 03-26-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I've meet a few NFL'ers in my time.

I used to work at a place frequented by NFL players. Each and every one of them was a major prick. Obviously, not every NFL player is an asshole, but I am comfortable saying most of them are.

03-26-2009, 01:35 PM	#1405
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I just watched the video. A) You can't see the officer for most of it, but at no point does Moats react as if he has a gun pointed at him. B) His wife (whose mother it was) went immediately inside, so if it was possible to arrive on time to see her mother pass, she made it. C) At no point did Moats even attempt to cooperate with the officer, it was instant screaming and confrontation. From what I could tell in the video, the officer handled it like he'd handle any stop. Cooperate and it will be done quickly, argue with me from moment one and forget it. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-26-2009, 01:38 PM	#1407
Moonliner 8/30/14 - Disneyland -10k or Bust. Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9,022	After catching up with someone who refuses to stop, I expect it's fairly standard to approach with caution (ie gun drawn). __________________ - Taking it one step at a time.
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03-26-2009, 01:40 PM	#1408
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Especially when they then jump out of the car screaming at you. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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03-26-2009, 02:01 PM	#1409
Disneyphile SQUIRREL! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: On the curbside. Posts: 5,098	I think someone who is in shock over someone dying is not exactly going to be thinking calmly enough to "react appropriately" to a police officer. Shock and grief can completely override and cloud rational thought.
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