Yes, we can. - Page 148

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-06-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

The guy is just an asshole (oops, can I say that here?)

Yes, You Can.

BarTopDancer · 08-06-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I am again thinking of sitting it out or at least not voting for either because McCain is going to win AZ in a landslide anyway.

If you don't vote you can't complain, regardless of any landslide potential negating your vote.

JWBear · 08-06-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenigma

The guy is just an asshole....

And, an asshole with a temper! Perfect man to have with his finger on our nuclear arsenal launch button.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 05:10 AM

I can find it and will. I have heard him say it and read it. Don't currently have the time....just between sets working out right now.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 06:15 AM

I was in the process of quoting that. I still think it is arrogant even with the full quote.

There are other things which involve more a feeling than a direct quote. To even presume to try to speak at the Brandenburg gate while a candidate, making a pseudo-Presidential seal to put on a podium he is speaking behind, his whole much discussed quote about people clinging to their guns and religion, numerous quotes by his wife (while that may not be fair, they are a package, and yes, Cindy McCain bugs me as well), many other things....it all adds up.

Strangler Lewis · 08-06-2008, 06:48 AM

What candidate doesn't do that? When Ross Perot ran on behalf of the hard working people who play by the rules, he was implying that they were better than everybody else and that their glory reflected on him. Rush Limbaugh says that red state people are better than blue state people.

Until recently, your signature line spoke of the better men and women in the military, an observation that makes no sense unless it means that we need people to do the jobs we would rather not do. In which case, people who do any number of dirty jobs are better than we are. It also means in all likelihood that we are not educating our children to be better men and women.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 06:55 AM

We have a slightly different perspective on Ross Perot, but that's besides the point.

What candidate has tried to speak at the Brandenburg gate? What candidate makes (or has a staff that makes) a seal that looks exactly like the Presidential seal and sticks it on the podium from which the candidate is speaking? You may not find these things to be arrogant, but I do.

I get why he's doing it. He needs to look Presidential because he has no (or more properly very little) experience in anything. I think he's working a bot too hard at it. And yes, I do completely understand that just as he is trying to look Presidential, his opponents wish to make him look presumptuous and arrogant.

Alex · 08-06-2008, 06:58 AM

I know it has been said before, but I want my president to be an elitist who thinks s/he is the best things since sliced bread.

If he says he doesn't and is running for president then he is either lying or admitting to a lack of qualification.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 07:03 AM

You do indeed have to think mighty highly of yourself to run for President. However, I think there is a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Alex · 08-06-2008, 07:19 AM

There may be, but I want both of them in a president.

Plus, as Asimov said, "it's not arrogance if you do it." So I'll wait and see how he does as president before deciding if it was a bad kind of arrogance.

08-06-2008, 05:10 AM	#4
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I can find it and will. I have heard him say it and read it. Don't currently have the time....just between sets working out right now.
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08-06-2008, 06:15 AM	#5
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I was in the process of quoting that. I still think it is arrogant even with the full quote. There are other things which involve more a feeling than a direct quote. To even presume to try to speak at the Brandenburg gate while a candidate, making a pseudo-Presidential seal to put on a podium he is speaking behind, his whole much discussed quote about people clinging to their guns and religion, numerous quotes by his wife (while that may not be fair, they are a package, and yes, Cindy McCain bugs me as well), many other things....it all adds up.
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08-06-2008, 06:48 AM	#6
Strangler Lewis Doing The Job Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In a state Posts: 3,956	What candidate doesn't do that? When Ross Perot ran on behalf of the hard working people who play by the rules, he was implying that they were better than everybody else and that their glory reflected on him. Rush Limbaugh says that red state people are better than blue state people. Until recently, your signature line spoke of the better men and women in the military, an observation that makes no sense unless it means that we need people to do the jobs we would rather not do. In which case, people who do any number of dirty jobs are better than we are. It also means in all likelihood that we are not educating our children to be better men and women. __________________ Live now-pay later. Diner's Club!
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08-06-2008, 06:55 AM	#7
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	We have a slightly different perspective on Ross Perot, but that's besides the point. What candidate has tried to speak at the Brandenburg gate? What candidate makes (or has a staff that makes) a seal that looks exactly like the Presidential seal and sticks it on the podium from which the candidate is speaking? You may not find these things to be arrogant, but I do. I get why he's doing it. He needs to look Presidential because he has no (or more properly very little) experience in anything. I think he's working a bot too hard at it. And yes, I do completely understand that just as he is trying to look Presidential, his opponents wish to make him look presumptuous and arrogant.
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08-06-2008, 06:58 AM	#8
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I know it has been said before, but I want my president to be an elitist who thinks s/he is the best things since sliced bread. If he says he doesn't and is running for president then he is either lying or admitting to a lack of qualification.
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08-06-2008, 07:03 AM	#9
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	You do indeed have to think mighty highly of yourself to run for President. However, I think there is a difference between confidence and arrogance.
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08-06-2008, 07:19 AM	#10
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	There may be, but I want both of them in a president. Plus, as Asimov said, "it's not arrogance if you do it." So I'll wait and see how he does as president before deciding if it was a bad kind of arrogance.
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