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sleepyjeff · 08-14-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I was waiting for this theory to come out....I didn't expect the source would be Russia, though.

Link to the whole story

What they won't say is that the real reason they attacked Georgia was to distract their population away from the Olympics....it wasn't so long ago when the question wasn't if they would finish 1st in the medal count but by how much.....now they are struggling to finish in 4th

Ghoulish Delight · 08-14-2008, 09:12 PM

I don't see that as much more of a fiction than, say, telling the Iraqi citizenry that we were there to liberate them and protect them from the terrorist threats that are trying to turn their country into a hive of evil.

Anyone (or government) that is willing to make the decision to begin a war is fully capable of lying. Once you've decided that you're so right that you give the thumbs up to action that is going to kill people who are not currently threatening your life to achieve your goal, lying is hardly going to keep you up at night. It's the reason that I automatically take credibility points away from anyone who advocates unprovoked acts of military aggression.

scaeagles · 08-14-2008, 09:26 PM

I suppose the definition of provocation varies from individual to individual, case by case. But to put credibility in this being plot by Dick Cheney to provoke to Russians is....well, unwarranted. Theories always abound, evidence is often lacking. This is spoken as someone who has his share of conspiracy theories, though.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-14-2008, 09:31 PM

I don't lend it credibility, no more so than I lend credibility to the flimsy propaganda stories our government wove to justify our presence in Iraq.

Unless you expect me to be shocked that a military aggressor is resorting to propaganda?

scaeagles · 08-14-2008, 09:32 PM

Yeah....which is why I said provocation is defined differently.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-15-2008, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Yeah....which is am why I said provocation is defined differently.

Fine, I'll remove the "aggressor" part of it.

Our government has lied to the Iraqi people about their motivation for being there, about the nature of external threats to their country, and about future intentions for military presence in their county. Anyone waging war is making the decision that their purposes are righteous enough to kill soldiers and innocent people for. Lies are nothing after that.

Tenigma · 08-15-2008, 09:48 AM

Oh hey by the way, Obama's now http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...3T]gone mobile!

While having a WAP-enabled section of your Web site isn't necessarily revolutionary, I believe it *is* for a presidential candidate.

The easiest way to connect is to text 62262 with the word SITE in the message. You get an automated response with the URL.

Otherwise, both http://m.barackobama.com and http://obamamobile.mobi/ will both get you there.

Also, you can download free wallpapers for your phone, and sign up to be one of the first to find out when he announces his veep selection.

[Psst: By the way, those wallpapers? Perfect size for an avatar!]

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-15-2008, 10:33 AM

Repair for Tenigma's link.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-15-2008, 11:11 AM

Ok, can't help but post this.

http://barackobamaisyournewbicycle.com/

http://hillaryismomjeans.com/

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BarTopDancer · 08-15-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

Ok, can't help but post this.

http://barackobamaisyournewbicycle.com/

http://hillaryismomjeans.com/

Hit refresh, refresh, refresh. Endlessly entertaining.

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08-14-2008, 09:12 PM	#2
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I don't see that as much more of a fiction than, say, telling the Iraqi citizenry that we were there to liberate them and protect them from the terrorist threats that are trying to turn their country into a hive of evil. Anyone (or government) that is willing to make the decision to begin a war is fully capable of lying. Once you've decided that you're so right that you give the thumbs up to action that is going to kill people who are not currently threatening your life to achieve your goal, lying is hardly going to keep you up at night. It's the reason that I automatically take credibility points away from anyone who advocates unprovoked acts of military aggression. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I suppose the definition of provocation varies from individual to individual, case by case. But to put credibility in this being plot by Dick Cheney to provoke to Russians is....well, unwarranted. Theories always abound, evidence is often lacking. This is spoken as someone who has his share of conspiracy theories, though.
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I don't lend it credibility, no more so than I lend credibility to the flimsy propaganda stories our government wove to justify our presence in Iraq. Unless you expect me to be shocked that a military aggressor is resorting to propaganda? __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Yeah....which is why I said provocation is defined differently.
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Tenigma Fired up, ready to go! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BarackObama.com Posts: 235	Oh hey by the way, Obama's now http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...3T]gone mobile! While having a WAP-enabled section of your Web site isn't necessarily revolutionary, I believe it is for a presidential candidate. The easiest way to connect is to text 62262 with the word SITE in the message. You get an automated response with the URL. Otherwise, both http://m.barackobama.com and http://obamamobile.mobi/ will both get you there. Also, you can download free wallpapers for your phone, and sign up to be one of the first to find out when he announces his veep selection. [Psst: By the way, those wallpapers? Perfect size for an avatar!] __________________ "Tradition in America is a progression of individual freedoms. You know what the tradition of America would say? Gay marriage is the next step in the progression. That's the tradition of America." - Jon Stewart, talking to Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show, November 13, 2008.
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Repair for Tenigma's link. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-15-2008, 11:11 AM	#9
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Ok, can't help but post this. http://barackobamaisyournewbicycle.com/ http://hillaryismomjeans.com/ Hit refresh, refresh, refresh. Endlessly entertaining. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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