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scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 07:38 PM

I don't see why it is stupid to say that there are people who will vote for Obama simply because he says hope and change. Why is that stupid?

innerSpaceman · 08-06-2008, 07:42 PM

Because there's a difference between just swallowing brand slogans and actually being even vaguely inspired by a few sound bites of what's behind them.

Do you really think there a number of voters who listen to their master's voice and vote like pups whenever they hear the sounds "hope," "change" or "food"?

I think what's stupid is you continuing to bait Alex on this subject. He's explained his points quite eloquently and in plainly understood terms. Why do you insist on misrepresenting what he is saying?

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wendybeth

Another thing- much has been said about Obama being 'arrogant', etc. I think it's bull****, much along the lines of confident, ambitious women who get labeled 'b i t c h e s' while their male peers are referred to as 'take-charge' or 'self-assured', etc. The man is articulate, intelligent and doesn't drag his knuckles when he walks, which I know is a huge departure from our current leader. It's a nice change.

So here we go.....criticism of Obama is seen as something akin to sexism (or racism) and can't be legitimate polciy wise.

Sorry, but anyone who claims to be the symbol of American greatness has some issues with arrogance. Some are fine with it, Alex even expects it.

Yes, he is certainly articulate and intelligent. For someone so taken aback by what you view as personal attacks against Obama, you sure hand them down to the current administration without much of a thought.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Why do you insist on misrepresenting what he is saying?

I'm not baiting him! I want to know why it is stupid to believe that there are voters who will vote for Obama without the slightest idea what the man stands for besides the two words! Why is that more ridiculous than GC saying that he thinks McCain will win because of the large contingency of voters are stupid enough to think Obama is Mulsim and therefore won't vote for him?

There are uninformed voters everywhere.

But I'll stop.

Alex · 08-06-2008, 08:01 PM

One more time, and please god who doesn't exist grant me the strength for it to really be the last time, it is not stupid to say that there are people who will vote for Obama simply because he inspires them. I'm sure such people exist. I'm sure there are more than 1 of them.

Now, here comes my point one more time. Here comes where I point out the stupidity you uttered and that I am objecting to (without being personally offended). I don't want to bold it again so I'll set it off in a little paragraph of its own. Hopefully Kevy will come along and quote it so that every once in a while you'll see it on the home page and have one more chance to understand it without me having to type it one more time. I encourage you to hightlight this next paragaph, type control-c, open Notepad, type control-p, then click print; take the resulting page and tape it to your bedroom ceiling so that while making sweet love to your wife she can see it up there and perhaps whisper it into your ear during that exquisite moment of orgasm when your mind is so completely blank that maybe it'll finally be clear. Here it is:

It is stupid to equate voting for Obama simply because he inspires you as being a similar stupidity as not voting for Obama because he is Muslim.

scaeagles · 08-06-2008, 08:02 PM

OK. Got it. Done with it. Not because I want to be or agree, but because I said I would be.

wendybeth · 08-06-2008, 08:04 PM

Mucho Alex mojo.

wendybeth · 08-06-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

So here we go.....criticism of Obama is seen as something akin to sexism (or racism) and can't be legitimate polciy wise.

Sorry, but anyone who claims to be the symbol of American greatness has some issues with arrogance. Some are fine with it, Alex even expects it.

Yes, he is certainly articulate and intelligent. For someone so taken aback by what you view as personal attacks against Obama, you sure hand them down to the current administration without much of a thought.

I have precedent on my side. You don't.

JWBear · 08-06-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

So here we go.....criticism of Obama is seen as something akin to sexism (or racism) and can't be legitimate polciy wise.

The criticism has nothing to do with Obama's policy. It is an ad hominem attack.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-07-2008, 06:55 AM

VAM, VAM, VAM.

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08-06-2008, 07:42 PM	#1562
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Because there's a difference between just swallowing brand slogans and actually being even vaguely inspired by a few sound bites of what's behind them. Do you really think there a number of voters who listen to their master's voice and vote like pups whenever they hear the sounds "hope," "change" or "food"? I think what's stupid is you continuing to bait Alex on this subject. He's explained his points quite eloquently and in plainly understood terms. Why do you insist on misrepresenting what he is saying?
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08-06-2008, 08:01 PM	#1565
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	One more time, and please god who doesn't exist grant me the strength for it to really be the last time, it is not stupid to say that there are people who will vote for Obama simply because he inspires them. I'm sure such people exist. I'm sure there are more than 1 of them. Now, here comes my point one more time. Here comes where I point out the stupidity you uttered and that I am objecting to (without being personally offended). I don't want to bold it again so I'll set it off in a little paragraph of its own. Hopefully Kevy will come along and quote it so that every once in a while you'll see it on the home page and have one more chance to understand it without me having to type it one more time. I encourage you to hightlight this next paragaph, type control-c, open Notepad, type control-p, then click print; take the resulting page and tape it to your bedroom ceiling so that while making sweet love to your wife she can see it up there and perhaps whisper it into your ear during that exquisite moment of orgasm when your mind is so completely blank that maybe it'll finally be clear. Here it is: It is stupid to equate voting for Obama simply because he inspires you as being a similar stupidity as not voting for Obama because he is Muslim.
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