Yes, we can.

[Gn2Dlnd]

Originally Posted by Tenigma

I hate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Oh, that's just because you don't want to see women succeed!

*ducks*

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Um, he's offereing the Olive Branch to Hillary's substantial army of supporters, whom he NEEDS to have a remote hope of winning the election.

Agreed. But in doing so he gave Hillary basically what she wanted. And this in no way means she's going to play nice and throw real support behind him. Her supporters will certainly recognize (and I believe have) the lack of genuineness in her support.

[innerSpaceman]

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

[Tenigma]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

You know, people were really complaining about this well before Hillary conceded--people I know who have been actively donating and fundraising for Obama's campaign has zero interest in helping Clinton pay off her debts.

I mean, if you had a neighbor who kept leaving bags of burning dog poo at your door, trying to splash acid on your car, played loud music at all hours of the night on speakers faced at your bedroom...

and then one day, your neighbor accidentally burnt down her house because she was trying to put together a row of molotov cocktails to throw at your garage when she tripped and lit up her own house, I mean, do you REALLY want to help her pay for her home repairs?

[wendybeth]

Thank you, Tenigma, for so clearly and humorously illustrating my thoughts on the matter. Obama owes Hillary zip- she's a snake who will turn around and act true to nature whenever possible, and the thought of her having any part of an Obama Administration makes me a bit ill. I wish I could like her more, but she keeps doing sneaky, destructive things that lead me to believe that she will not be a graceful loser and will continue to divide the party in the coming months. I don't know how Obama can achieve unity with her behaving like she has- it really is up to her to step up to the plate.

[lashbear]

isn't this election over yet ?? *sheesh*

you usa'ns shore do hayav lawng erect elections....

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Agreed. But in doing so he gave Hillary basically what she wanted. And this in no way means she's going to play nice and throw real support behind him. Her supporters will certainly recognize (and I believe have) the lack of genuineness in her support.

So you're saying that instead of being the bigger person and being nice to her in an attempt to bring the Clinton supporters home, he should give her and her supporters the cold shoulder? How is that supposed to help?

Oh wait, that's Republican foreign policy. I see your "logic".

Originally Posted by lashbear

isn't this election over yet ?? *sheesh*

you usa'ns shore do hayav lawng erect elections....

Technically, the election hasn't begun yet. The conventions kick it off, and that's not until late August. The "season" started ridiculously early this time around.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Actually, Hillary has already raised half a million dollars for Obama, per a mutual pledge to do that for each other. And he has so far reneged on his part of that deal.

Link? I hadn't heard this.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

So you're saying that instead of being the bigger person and being nice to her in an attempt to bring the Clinton supporters home, he should give her and her supporters the cold shoulder? How is that supposed to help?

Oh wait, that's Republican foreign policy. I see your "logic".

Big, big difference between being nice and capitulating to demands in the interests of getting along.

And I feel like I need to take a shower. You quoted me and attributed it to ISM.

[innerSpaceman]

Oh, so it's ok for him to just break his word, because he now feels she's undeserving? And how it it any less duplicitious and snakelike of him to go back on a pledge for such illegitimate reasons as HE dedided he no longer owes the money he promised to raise in return for the money SHE promised to raise and already DID for him?


That's not even good enough for my ex-boyfriend, much less the next president of the United States.


Pfft.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Big, big difference between being nice and capitulating to demands in the interests of getting along.

And I feel like I need to take a shower. You quoted me and attributed it to ISM.

I think I was going to quote him, and the tags got jumbled - sorry!

Allowing the Clintons to speak at the Democratic National Convention is expected, not "capitulating to demands". I'd be very dismayed if they did not have a voice in the convention. That would be seriously rude.