Yes, we can. - Page 174

scaeagles · 08-23-2008, 09:44 AM

And the Biden ads are already coming out....

McCain ad with Biden

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-23-2008, 09:52 AM

Didn't know anything about Biden so I wikipedia-d him.

He introduced the RAVE act, along with Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy, and oh yeah, all other Dems. If it had passed, it could have meant that any concert featuring glowsticks and bottled water could get promoters arrested. Now I'm remembering why I'm still not a Dem.

He voted for the war.

All else seems inoffensive to me, but not particularly strong. Kind of a bummer. It's obviously to appease those who want a Washington player involved, blah blah blah. Lame in my book. I just hope it works to pull in the block of Dem women who can't let go of Clinton.

mousepod · 08-23-2008, 10:02 AM

I like Biden. I registered as a Democrat this year in order to vote for Richardson in the Primary, but he pulled out before the California vote. He would have been my first choice. As far as politicians go, Biden is someone I generally respect. I've been griping lately about "having to" vote for Obama in November - now I'm feeling better about voting Democrat in the General Election. So I guess in this very limited household poll of one, Barack made a good choice.

Motorboat Cruiser · 08-23-2008, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mousepod

I like Biden. I registered as a Democrat this year in order to vote for Richardson in the Primary, but he pulled out before the California vote. He would have been my first choice. As far as politicians go, Biden is someone I generally respect. I've been griping lately about "having to" vote for Obama in November - now I'm feeling better about voting Democrat in the General Election. So I guess in this very limited household poll of one, Barack made a good choice.

Add me to your poll of thinking that this was a good choice for Obama.

Ghoulish Delight · 08-23-2008, 10:11 AM

I think going with someone who's been critical of him and complimentary towards his opponent is a smart move for Obama. It reinforces the, "I don't have to agree with you to respect you," side of things, which is a vital message for him. The political, and particularly foreign policy, experience that comes along with that is a bonus.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-24-2008, 12:08 AM

Ok cool, I'm glad people like the choice.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-24-2008, 12:11 AM

One more thing - my text message was timestamped 1am. Um, how exactly does that mean that the texted people were notified first? Lame.

Alex · 08-24-2008, 12:39 AM

My understanding is that they intended to do the text message in the morning but they got scooped by the Secret Service (when ABC learned they'd assigned a detail to Biden) and so sent the text in the middle of the night before they officially confirmed it.

But who knows.

I did note a startling unexpected pattern: nearly universally conservative news "analysts" thought Biden a horrible choice, almost single-handedly scuttling Obama's campaign, and a confirmation of every bad thing they've ever said about either man; nearly universally liberal news "analysts" thought Biden a pretty smart choice, a confirmation of every good thing they've ever said about either man and a solid counter to likely McCain attacks.

I'm sure the party line split is purely coincidental and doesn't at all reflect on their actual ability to provide analysis and their personal insight.

Cadaverous Pallor · 08-24-2008, 10:00 AM

Alex rules. I think both parties can agree on that.

Alex · 08-24-2008, 10:34 AM

This suggests I have the power of taxation.

But don't worry, I'm fair and believe both in the redistribution of wealth so the rich don't get too rich and an ethic of self-sufficiency so that the poor don't get lazy.

Therefore I'll take all your excess and just keep it.

08-23-2008, 09:44 AM	#1731
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	And the Biden ads are already coming out.... McCain ad with Biden
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08-23-2008, 09:52 AM	#1732
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Didn't know anything about Biden so I wikipedia-d him. He introduced the RAVE act, along with Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy, and oh yeah, all other Dems. If it had passed, it could have meant that any concert featuring glowsticks and bottled water could get promoters arrested. Now I'm remembering why I'm still not a Dem. He voted for the war. All else seems inoffensive to me, but not particularly strong. Kind of a bummer. It's obviously to appease those who want a Washington player involved, blah blah blah. Lame in my book. I just hope it works to pull in the block of Dem women who can't let go of Clinton. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-23-2008, 10:02 AM	#1733
mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I like Biden. I registered as a Democrat this year in order to vote for Richardson in the Primary, but he pulled out before the California vote. He would have been my first choice. As far as politicians go, Biden is someone I generally respect. I've been griping lately about "having to" vote for Obama in November - now I'm feeling better about voting Democrat in the General Election. So I guess in this very limited household poll of one, Barack made a good choice. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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08-23-2008, 10:11 AM	#1735
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I think going with someone who's been critical of him and complimentary towards his opponent is a smart move for Obama. It reinforces the, "I don't have to agree with you to respect you," side of things, which is a vital message for him. The political, and particularly foreign policy, experience that comes along with that is a bonus. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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08-24-2008, 12:08 AM	#1736
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Ok cool, I'm glad people like the choice. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-24-2008, 12:11 AM	#1737
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	One more thing - my text message was timestamped 1am. Um, how exactly does that mean that the texted people were notified first? Lame. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-24-2008, 12:39 AM	#1738
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	My understanding is that they intended to do the text message in the morning but they got scooped by the Secret Service (when ABC learned they'd assigned a detail to Biden) and so sent the text in the middle of the night before they officially confirmed it. But who knows. I did note a startling unexpected pattern: nearly universally conservative news "analysts" thought Biden a horrible choice, almost single-handedly scuttling Obama's campaign, and a confirmation of every bad thing they've ever said about either man; nearly universally liberal news "analysts" thought Biden a pretty smart choice, a confirmation of every good thing they've ever said about either man and a solid counter to likely McCain attacks. I'm sure the party line split is purely coincidental and doesn't at all reflect on their actual ability to provide analysis and their personal insight.
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08-24-2008, 10:00 AM	#1739
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	Alex rules. I think both parties can agree on that. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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08-24-2008, 10:34 AM	#1740
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	This suggests I have the power of taxation. But don't worry, I'm fair and believe both in the redistribution of wealth so the rich don't get too rich and an ethic of self-sufficiency so that the poor don't get lazy. Therefore I'll take all your excess and just keep it.
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