AP Black-out tix unavailable 7/17! (EH1812 posting for LSPoorEeyorick) - Page 2

BarTopDancer · 07-14-2005, 01:07 PM

I suspect that in the end they will be selling black-out passes, that this is a ploy to keep some people away. The amout of AP holders that do not frequent message boards is a lot larger than the amount that do. If they were going to cancel the sale of black-out passes they would have publicized it earlier. To full on cancel the sale of them with no notice is asking for bad press.

Cadaverous Pallor · 07-14-2005, 01:55 PM

I feel bad for the customer service people, such as ML. You guys get the worst of it.

I can't believe they don't have hard facts at this late hour!

MickeyLumbo · 07-14-2005, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I feel bad for the customer service people, such as ML. You guys get the worst of it.

I can't believe they don't have hard facts at this late hour!

CP: the hard facts that have created America? LOL

make July 17 "be nice to a CM day" as they will be working under difficult circumstances all the while, trying to keep a smile on their faces.

BTD: i agree, to not give advance notice would be a schtoopid move, as Hans would say.

MG: you may represent me in court anytime!
GD: "subject to availability"... i say it 200 times a day

MM and MBC: I really hope you guys will find a way in... wish i could help - even CM MG passes are blocked, as H said, otherwise i would.

EH and P: At least you have a plan other than work

Morrigoon · 07-14-2005, 02:15 PM

Here's my take on it... your pass is a contract. Part of that contract allows you to purchase block-out day tickets. Now, obviously entrance to Disneyland is not guaranteed, as the park may fill up, but it seems to me that as long as they are selling 1-day tickets, they must sell block-out tickets. Otherwise, what is their excuse? Oh no, we won't be selling block-out tickets because the park is too full, but if you want to pay double the park ISN'T too full? Can't happen. I mean, theoretically, it COULD, but it would be a PR DISASTER for them.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-14-2005, 02:24 PM

"Subject to change without notice"

FEJ · 07-15-2005, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

"Subject to change without notice"

and also "subject to availability" (per the AP section of the website, Terms and Conditions)

and "Restrictions apply. Subject to blockout dates. Annual Passports do not guarantee theme park admission, are nonrefundable, nontransferable ..."

while it does suck for those who may be blocked out, it is within their right ot do so. It was my understanding months back that only premium AP's or full price tickets would be honored on the birthday. I may have misconstrued something though.

We will know the answer monday

Morrigoon · 07-14-2005, 02:27 PM

Yes, but again.... they'd have a VERY hard time selling 1-day tickets and NOT blockout passes. It would go badly for them.

I imagine that anyone showing up that day who was refused permission to purchase a blockout day ticket could ask for a manager, ask again for a blockout day pass, and when refused, ask if you could purchase a 1-day ticket. When they say yes, you ask them how it is that they could be too full to sell blockouts, but not too full to let you in for more money. I imagine, if you kept calm enough, you could get the manager to agree to sell you a blockout ticket.

Ghoulish Delight · 07-14-2005, 02:34 PM

Yes, you're probably right. As a matter of fact, if you are planning on trying to get a blockout ticket and they try this (i.e., no blockout tickets, but they are selling 1-day's), don't hesitate to mutter something about "bait and switch" under your breath.

Hades · 07-14-2005, 02:50 PM

It is quite possible that Disney admissions might skirt by on the not selling the block out day tickets on the excuse that July 17th is a "Special Event" day. They are working the Cast Member admission block out (no Main Gate passes and no Cast Member ID admissions allowed on the 17th, but we can use the Team Disney complimentary admission passes to get in) in order to limit the amount of Cast Members going to the park. As GD had mentioned, "Subject to change without notice" will be the mantra of that day.

innerSpaceman · 07-14-2005, 04:34 PM

Well, whatever you do ... for those who are planning on going ... don't give up hope. Schmooze your way into buying that Blackout pass that, as illustrated above, you could claim -tactfully- is a deceptive business practice of bait and switch.

Remember - - despite any official policy, Disneyland Birthday is a Magical Day. Things can and will go YOUR way.

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BarTopDancer Prepping... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere Posts: 11,405	I suspect that in the end they will be selling black-out passes, that this is a ploy to keep some people away. The amout of AP holders that do not frequent message boards is a lot larger than the amount that do. If they were going to cancel the sale of black-out passes they would have publicized it earlier. To full on cancel the sale of them with no notice is asking for bad press. __________________ Spork is the new MacGyver Postcards From My Edge
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Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	I feel bad for the customer service people, such as ML. You guys get the worst of it. I can't believe they don't have hard facts at this late hour! __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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07-14-2005, 02:15 PM	#4
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Here's my take on it... your pass is a contract. Part of that contract allows you to purchase block-out day tickets. Now, obviously entrance to Disneyland is not guaranteed, as the park may fill up, but it seems to me that as long as they are selling 1-day tickets, they must sell block-out tickets. Otherwise, what is their excuse? Oh no, we won't be selling block-out tickets because the park is too full, but if you want to pay double the park ISN'T too full? Can't happen. I mean, theoretically, it COULD, but it would be a PR DISASTER for them. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	"Subject to change without notice" __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-14-2005, 02:27 PM	#7
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Yes, but again.... they'd have a VERY hard time selling 1-day tickets and NOT blockout passes. It would go badly for them. I imagine that anyone showing up that day who was refused permission to purchase a blockout day ticket could ask for a manager, ask again for a blockout day pass, and when refused, ask if you could purchase a 1-day ticket. When they say yes, you ask them how it is that they could be too full to sell blockouts, but not too full to let you in for more money. I imagine, if you kept calm enough, you could get the manager to agree to sell you a blockout ticket. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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07-14-2005, 02:34 PM	#8
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Yes, you're probably right. As a matter of fact, if you are planning on trying to get a blockout ticket and they try this (i.e., no blockout tickets, but they are selling 1-day's), don't hesitate to mutter something about "bait and switch" under your breath. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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07-14-2005, 02:50 PM	#9
Hades Silly Rabbit! Tricks are for kids! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 80	It is quite possible that Disney admissions might skirt by on the not selling the block out day tickets on the excuse that July 17th is a "Special Event" day. They are working the Cast Member admission block out (no Main Gate passes and no Cast Member ID admissions allowed on the 17th, but we can use the Team Disney complimentary admission passes to get in) in order to limit the amount of Cast Members going to the park. As GD had mentioned, "Subject to change without notice" will be the mantra of that day. __________________ And you were waiting for the other shoe to drop?!!
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07-14-2005, 04:34 PM	#10
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	Well, whatever you do ... for those who are planning on going ... don't give up hope. Schmooze your way into buying that Blackout pass that, as illustrated above, you could claim -tactfully- is a deceptive business practice of bait and switch. Remember - - despite any official policy, Disneyland Birthday is a Magical Day. Things can and will go YOUR way.
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