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Old 11-29-2007, 09:29 AM   #1
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I love my Mazda3. The 6 is beautiful too but may be cramped for 5.

Try their SUV. American pricing with Japanese quality.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:42 AM   #2
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CJ's used car idea is a great one. Look for one with low miles and you really can't go wrong. Honda makes a great car. I've had 2 civics, my neighbor put 220k miles on his before getting a new one (and it still runs). Chris has a CRV with 130k miles and very few problems. The accord is a great car, the CRV is another option to look into. I would also consider the Toyota Camry as well.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:22 AM   #3
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Paging Nirvanaman. Is there a Nirvanaman in the house?

I went with him to the LA Car Show last week. The man's knowledge of everyday cars is actually amazing. Hopefully he posts his €0.02 worth.
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Old 11-29-2007, 04:57 PM   #4
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I went with him to the LA Car Show last week. The man's knowledge of everyday cars is actually amazing. Hopefully he posts his €0.02 worth.
NirvanaMan is here! This thread was made for me. And no, all the choices of cars titillates as opposed to terrifies me.

Hopefully you haven't gone too far in the process. The advice to look at a Toyota or Honda is a solid one, if you are just looking for boring reliable transportation. Honda has a solid racing history as of late with a solid investment in F1 so they are going to be a touch more fun to drive than the floaty Toyota's.

Generally, you don't want to finance through a dealer unless you are getting a subsidized rate through the OEM (in this case Honda Credit America or whatever the financial arm of their company is called. Teaser rates such as 0% are great if they are offered. However, if the dealer is financing themselves or more than likely, going through another bank, you will typically not get the best deal. These are operated at no-cost and no-effort profit centers for dealerships. They buy a low rate, tack on a couple percent, then give it to you. Bad move.

Also, the one piece of advice I always give and too many people ignore: SHOP AROUND. Test drive a lot of cars. See what you like. Never be too anxious. Dealers can smell it and a good salesman will prey on it. Don't fall in love with the first car you see. The segment it sounds like you are looking at is a commodity segment so a similar vehicle can be found and they are a dime a dozen. Don't let the dealer tell you it is the only one like it around. Not in that segment. You could always order a car as well.

The myth that the Japanese make the only good cars is slowly dying. Toyota has been riddled with recalls and bad reviews in consumer reports as of late while the American OEMs are doing much better. Overall, all companies make good cars with a few bad apples out there. At this point, I wouldn't buy the following makes for unreasonably bad quality (if quality is a primary concern): Land Rover, VW, Mercedes-Benz, some Audi's. Other than that, they are all pretty damn close. Typically, here are the top 5 makes in terms of quality: Lexus, Jaguar, Cadillac, Buick, Toyota. As I mentioned, Toyota has been slipping a lot with several of the GM and Ford brands making inroads. Generally, the Japanese do have the best quality, followed closely by the Americans with the Germans a very distant third. I know, not what the laymen would expect. But perceptions always lag reality. Especially true in the Auto industry.

If you can tell me a little bit more about what you are looking for, how you expect to use a vehicle, and rough price range I can help you better. For example, is power more important or fuel economy. Do you need the flexibility to hold large items. Are features (Navigation, blind spot sensors, reverse object detection ultrasonic sensors) important to you. Is a car a fashion statement, reflection of your personality, or just basic transportation from point A to point B. I need details.
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This is hilarious to read because NM drives a Land Rover
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This is hilarious to read because NM drives a Land Rover
That gave me a giggle as well.
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This is hilarious to read because NM drives a Land Rover
Ah yes, but quality is low on my personal priority list while shopping for a personal vehicle. And my Range Rover Sport has been basically flawless, knock on the hand-selected and hand-finished satin cherry wood veneers. My pre-production LR3 on the other hand, don't get me started. The first year with that car ::shudder::.

Oh and 80% off had something of an impact in my decision matrix.
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Old 11-29-2007, 11:53 AM   #8
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Honda makes excellent vehicles. Pity they became popular with the racing crowd and the prices went up. But very reliable cars.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:35 PM   #9
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*deep breath*

Remind myself that life works out like it is supposed to.

Phew....

Ok- got approved for financing through the dealership- but also got approved for a better rate through my employer 6% better-but not enough for the brand new car (2700 shy)-

BUT on the website at the SAME dealership I was at last night they have the SAME car, 2007, in the exact color I want for just- and I mean JUST under the amount approved through my work.

I have called and asked them to see if it is still on the lot- if it is, it is MINE baby. Payment would be $100 less, and I am sure insurance will be about the same (that's a whole other adventure)

IF this happens this is MY Christmas present- seriously.
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