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Old 02-20-2009, 07:55 AM   #201
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On the podcast, Darlton said that 316 and the next episode are actually shown out of numbered sequence, so apparently they decided that it would be more interesting to see the effects before the cause(s).

Anyone else watching Fringe? I'm enjoying the little Lost references that are included there, although I have probably missed some. I'll have to find some geeky fan site that tracks them all.
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:07 AM   #202
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During season 3 Kate and Sawyer were working on what we later learned from Juliet was a landing strip.......

Could the plane have landed on the Island(well, the other Island actually) after the O-6 vanished?
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Old 02-20-2009, 11:11 AM   #203
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But that's only with people actually on the island. What happens if you time travel to the island?
The plane was in the Island's airspace. It's like how Jin was blown off the ship then time traveled in the water. The island has a blast zone.

As for how they got from the plane to the land, my assumption would be that you never materialize in time in mid air - though they had it much better than Locke did in the well.

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I meant to point out earlier that Locke is an example of this...he is dead in the real world and alive on the island. Both places at one time (well, really 3 years apart, but time isn't moving at a parallel pace). Granted, the circumstances are different but I think it is clear that TPTB's version of "time" travel allows for a person to be in more than one reality (place and/or time).
I don't think that's true at all. Locke was alive, then he left the island, and now he's dead. We were seeing it simultaneously because everything on the island was a flashback to just after the 6 left. That's why, now that they're back, they find Jin in a new circumstance, driving a Dharma van, because he's been living on the island for 3 years since they left.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:08 PM   #204
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If the Island has always been traveling through time like Eloise Hawking said, how is it that the freighter could stay parked outside of the Island's "blast zone" and venture to it any time they pleased—bearing 300º or not?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:32 PM   #205
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If the Island has always been traveling through time like Eloise Hawking said, how is it that the freighter could stay parked outside of the Island's "blast zone" and venture to it any time they pleased—bearing 300º or not?
She said they were able to predict the when and where it would be, and that it was in a spot for a window, and that this current window was about to close. The island isn't constantly moving, it's still for a bit, then moves, then still, then moves. Remember all the talk about "moving the island"?
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:42 PM   #206
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I think the island was jumping more because Ben had moved it, but the donkey wheel was off. When they stabilized it the island was more stable in time.
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Old 02-20-2009, 01:50 PM   #207
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If the Island has always been traveling through time like Eloise Hawking said...
I don't think the island has always been moving through time. It has been moving from location to location. Her words (paraphrased...but I watched it 3 times yesterday so I might be close), "Instead of trying to discover where the island is supposed to be, they found a way to locate where it's going to be...in time." She emphasized "time" which makes it sound like it is time traveling always. But I think it actually means they can predict the where and when. As in, "the island will be located at these exact coordinates at this exact time."
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Old 02-20-2009, 04:38 PM   #208
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Anyone else watching Fringe? I'm enjoying the little Lost references that are included there, although I have probably missed some. I'll have to find some geeky fan site that tracks them all.
Yes. I haven't gone crazy trying to identify them, because I know there really just referenced for the sake of fandom, and don't really impact the plot of either show. Do think it's a cool that both shows exist in basically the same verse.
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Anyone else watching Fringe?
I tried to watch it, and like it. I really did. But Olivia's voice annoyed the holy crap out of me.

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The plane was in the Island's airspace. It's like how Jin was blown off the ship then time traveled in the water. The island has a blast zone.
But that doesn't negate the idea that they can occupy 2 different realities (times/places) at the same time.

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I don't think that's true at all. Locke was alive, then he left the island, and now he's dead. We were seeing it simultaneously because everything on the island was a flashback to just after the 6 left. That's why, now that they're back, they find Jin in a new circumstance, driving a Dharma van, because he's been living on the island for 3 years since they left.
I've always had the impression that time moves much more slowly on the island than it does off of the island. I don't remember them ever insinuating or showing that they were just leaving out 2 9/10 years on the island. Jack stated that Locke came to him and Kate a couple of months ago (In There's no Place Like Home), not a couple of years ago.
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Old 02-22-2009, 11:55 PM   #210
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Hello again from the guy who's always one season behind.

So the 4th season picked up nicely. I'll even buy the excuse of the writer's strike for not being able to develop the characters they added. And the season got better and better as it went along.


So now I don't feel like waiting a whole 'nuther year to catch up. Are season 5 episodes available online anywhere??
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