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Gemini Cricket · 10-16-2008, 10:12 AM

My parents, for instance, are pro-life without any exceptions. I would call them pro-life/anti-abortion...

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

I disagree. If you posed the question of what an embryo or fetus is as "animal, vegetable or mineral," you would have to answer "animal." Having answered that question, you have to answer the moral question of what dominion you have over that animal and under what circumstances it is necessary, reasonable or simply permissible to end its life.

You could ask the same question about any person walking down the street. I don't really understand this line of thinking.

Betty · 10-16-2008, 10:38 AM

I tend to feel that because it has to do only with women, it's somehow ok to many men to be Pro-Life.

For example, if the argument had something to do with their balls... for instance, if you chose not to use a condom and there was an unwanted pregancy, they could cut off one of your balls. Would you be pro choice for that? Why? Because it's not up to the government to decide if you have 1 ball or 2, or none at all?

Yeah - that's not a very good argument I know. But politician's just don't mess with men's junk. they shoudln't be messing with mine either.

How about - if ProLife meant you HAD to father a child. There was no choice. Think of all the wasted sperm that could be made into children? Or what if you coudln't have sex without the express purpose of producing a baby so as not to kill off any potential children. No rubbin one out either... to many lost children down the shower drain.

Okay - my arguments still aren't getting any better.

I guess I'm done.

Gemini Cricket · 10-16-2008, 10:53 AM

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"For those of you who are feeling giddy or cocky and think this is all set, I just [have] two words for you: New Hampshire," the Democratic presidential nominee said during a fundraiser breakfast in New York. "You know I've been in these positions before where we were favored and the press starts getting carried away and we end up getting spanked. And so that's another good lesson that Hillary Clinton taught me."

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See see see? Obama agrees with my Han Solo advice. "Don't get cocky." I will be happy once all the votes are counted and a winner is chosen. But I must say I'm more hopeful now.

scaeagles · 10-16-2008, 11:05 AM

I'll say it - Obama has this in the bag. Unless there is a major October surprise in which a video of Obama meeting with Bin Laden in the caves of Pakistan and embracing him while handing him cash labelled "for anti aircraft stinger missiles" and then giving him a big wet tongue involved smooch, it's over.

Strangler Lewis · 10-16-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonliner

I don't think I agree with that statement. I see myself as Pro-Life and Pro-choice.

Personally, I am Pro-Life. Abortion sucks, don't have one. There are almost always better options for the child.

Policy wise, I'm rabid Pro-Choice. I don't like abortion (I mean come on, who does?), but I really don't like the government interfering with our lives to that level. So if you want to do the wrong thing it sucks but it's a personal choice.

Or as Bill Clinton said, "safe, legal and rare."

Scrooge McSam · 10-16-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'll say it - Obama has this in the bag. Unless there is a major October surprise in which a video of Obama meeting with Bin Laden in the caves of Pakistan and embracing him while handing him cash labelled "for anti aircraft stinger missiles" and then giving him a big wet tongue involved smooch, it's over.

Oh, I don't know... being found in bed with a dead white boy might do it

Strangler Lewis · 10-16-2008, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'll say it - Obama has this in the bag. Unless there is a major October surprise in which a video of Obama meeting with Bin Laden in the caves of Pakistan and embracing him while handing him cash labelled "for anti aircraft stinger missiles" and then giving him a big wet tongue involved smooch . . .

Which the right would immediately take out of context.

Morrigoon · 10-16-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ScroogeMcSam

Oh, I don't know... being found in bed with a dead white boy might do it

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Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

Which the right would immediately take out of context.

I read those one after the other, SL, and somehow my eyes glossed over the part you actually quoted. Made that remark quite funny. Had to share.

3894 · 10-16-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Betty

I tend to feel that because it has to do only with women, it's somehow ok to many men to be Pro-Life.

When McCain used air quotes around "health of the mother", he lost a lot of women's votes, I betcha.

If you didn't see it, here's a short youtube from the debate. Safe for work.

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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	I tend to feel that because it has to do only with women, it's somehow ok to many men to be Pro-Life. For example, if the argument had something to do with their balls... for instance, if you chose not to use a condom and there was an unwanted pregancy, they could cut off one of your balls. Would you be pro choice for that? Why? Because it's not up to the government to decide if you have 1 ball or 2, or none at all? Yeah - that's not a very good argument I know. But politician's just don't mess with men's junk. they shoudln't be messing with mine either. How about - if ProLife meant you HAD to father a child. There was no choice. Think of all the wasted sperm that could be made into children? Or what if you coudln't have sex without the express purpose of producing a baby so as not to kill off any potential children. No rubbin one out either... to many lost children down the shower drain. Okay - my arguments still aren't getting any better. I guess I'm done. __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I'll say it - Obama has this in the bag. Unless there is a major October surprise in which a video of Obama meeting with Bin Laden in the caves of Pakistan and embracing him while handing him cash labelled "for anti aircraft stinger missiles" and then giving him a big wet tongue involved smooch, it's over.
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