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JWBear · 11-03-2008, 04:18 PM

But, will the vote still be counted? How does that work?

Morrigoon · 11-03-2008, 04:18 PM

Huh... does your vote count when you're deceased though? (Not like the authorities would actually be able to track down her ballot, heh)

JWBear · 11-03-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Huh... does your vote count when you're deceased though? (Not like the authorities would actually be able to track down her ballot, heh)

Sure they can. It has her name on it (well... the envelope, anyway.)

Alex · 11-03-2008, 04:43 PM

Hawaii Revised Statute Section 15.13

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§15-13 Death of voter prior to opening of polls. Whenever sufficient proof is shown to the clerk that an absentee voter who has returned the voter's return envelope has died prior to the opening of the polls on the date of election, the voter's ballot shall be deemed invalid and disposed of pursuant to section 11-154. The casting of any such ballot shall not invalidate the election.

So, technically, the clerk, since it will be well known that she has passed away prior to the election, is supposed to find her envelope and remove it. Technically, her vote will not count. That said, I don't know if they'll bother. It isn't like there is any doubt how Hawaii will go. And I'd hate to be the jackass protesting.

There is the issue of down ticket issues, though, which might be more sensitive to individual votes.

alphabassettgrrl · 11-03-2008, 04:55 PM

At least he got one last visit with her. Sad.

Morrigoon · 11-03-2008, 05:30 PM

Depends, I suppose, if the ballots have been removed from the envelopes or not.

Tenigma · 11-03-2008, 06:20 PM

This is from Obama's Web Site Rapid Response Team:

Guest book for leaving condolences for Obama's grandma:

http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp...onId=119723905

Alex · 11-03-2008, 06:56 PM

This blogger spoke to the Office of Elections in Hawaii, which says her vote will be counted, even though the envelope won't be opened until tomorrow. That, however, does seem to contradict what is in the statute so I don't know.

Cadaverous Pallor · 11-03-2008, 07:22 PM

I'm sad about Barack's grandmother.

Just another day or so....*sigh*.

innerSpaceman · 11-03-2008, 07:26 PM

I'm sad for their whole family. On the eve of such overwhelming joy that now must be bittersweet at best.

I haven't followed the story closely, so I can only hope that the Grandmother's death was long-anticipated and, in fact, is seen more as a release from a tragic illness than as a terrible cut-off from life. In that way, perhaps the family will be grieving slightly less when meeting the triumph that tomorrow likely brings.

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Tenigma Fired up, ready to go! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: BarackObama.com Posts: 235	This is from Obama's Web Site Rapid Response Team: Guest book for leaving condolences for Obama's grandma: http://www.legacy.com/Obituaries.asp...onId=119723905 __________________ "Tradition in America is a progression of individual freedoms. You know what the tradition of America would say? Gay marriage is the next step in the progression. That's the tradition of America." - Jon Stewart, talking to Bill O'Reilly on the Daily Show, November 13, 2008.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	This blogger spoke to the Office of Elections in Hawaii, which says her vote will be counted, even though the envelope won't be opened until tomorrow. That, however, does seem to contradict what is in the statute so I don't know.
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I'm sad for their whole family. On the eve of such overwhelming joy that now must be bittersweet at best. I haven't followed the story closely, so I can only hope that the Grandmother's death was long-anticipated and, in fact, is seen more as a release from a tragic illness than as a terrible cut-off from life. In that way, perhaps the family will be grieving slightly less when meeting the triumph that tomorrow likely brings.
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