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scaeagles · 02-20-2008, 12:03 PM

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But you continue to divorce her words from her context. It's shrill and it's dishonest.

Putting words in her mouth such as she's talking about Jim Crow laws - which most certainly were not in existance during her adult life - is completely in context and completely honest, then?

I know exactly what she said. This is the first time in the last 26 years she's been proud of her country. I am taking nothing out of context whatsoever, while you are linking her words in some sort of odd spin to laws that have not existed during the time frame she references.

JWBear · 02-20-2008, 10:47 AM

I think the Clinton campaign is starting to sound desperate.

Alex · 02-20-2008, 11:11 AM

It was nice to see in McCain's speech last night that he has apparently endorsed Obama for the Democratic nomination.

Cadaverous Pallor · 02-20-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

It was nice to see in McCain's speech last night that he has apparently endorsed Obama for the Democratic nomination.

Ok, 'splain yourself. I have to admit I didn't hear the speech.

Alex · 02-20-2008, 10:38 PM

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Ok, 'splain yourself. I have to admit I didn't hear the speech.

In his victory speech last night he made several statements against Obama but nothing against Clinton. So he was acting (or pretending to) on the assumption that Obama will be his opponent.

Morrigoon · 02-20-2008, 11:29 AM

So Steph, what's the foreign read on the election, then?

mousepod · 02-20-2008, 12:02 PM

I know I voted for Clinton (with no regrets). I know that I will support Obama should he get the nomination. But if he's the candidate, here's the kind of thing that will make me worried...

clip from Chris Matthews' Hardball.

Morrigoon · 02-20-2008, 01:31 PM

Only in this century*... remember that in the 1800s the Republicans were the more friendly party to them and the "solid south" was made up of people still flying the stars and bars.

(By "this century", I mean since 1900 or so)

JWBear · 02-20-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

Only in this century*... remember that in the 1800s the Republicans were the more friendly party to them and the "solid south" was made up of people still flying the stars and bars.

(By "this century", I mean since 1900 or so)

You can extend that all the way up until the 1920's. The parties didn't start switching rolls in any meaningful way until the depression and The New Deal.

Theodore Rooseveldt was Republican, and many of his progressive causes and ideals would get him labled a liberal if he were alive today. (Just one example out of many.)

scaeagles · 02-20-2008, 01:59 PM

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Theodore Rooseveldt was Republican, and many of his progressive causes and ideals would get him labled a liberal if he were alive today. (Just one example out of many.)

JFK was a Democrat, yet his tax policies would get him labeled as a tax cuts for the wealthy conservative if he were alive today.

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mousepod You broke your Ramadar! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,635	I know I voted for Clinton (with no regrets). I know that I will support Obama should he get the nomination. But if he's the candidate, here's the kind of thing that will make me worried... clip from Chris Matthews' Hardball. __________________ "Give the public everything you can give them, keep the place as clean as you can keep it, keep it friendly" - Walt Disney
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Only in this century*... remember that in the 1800s the Republicans were the more friendly party to them and the "solid south" was made up of people still flying the stars and bars. (By "this century", I mean since 1900 or so) __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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