Yes, we can.

[SacTown Chronic]

Barack Obama's 2002 Iraq War speech.

He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.

And here is a rebuttal from Clinton and McCain






Quite frankly, that's all the substance I need.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Chris just does what Bill and Hillary tell him to.

Previously it seemed to me that Chris Matthews was practically wetting himself in excitement over Obama's ascendancy. I thought he was about to break out in tears after Obama's Iowa victory speech.

[scaeagles]

I found his "makes a chill run up my leg" comment to be a little creepy.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

A public thank you to Sac for posting info. I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Regarding sound bites - they're sound bites. All sides have them. As always, you want facts, you have to read up on things.

[Moonliner]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Currently I'm an ABC voter (Anyone But Clinton) . Which puts me squarely in Obama's camp. As soon as the wicked witch of the east gets a little more cold water on her and Obama gets the nomination then it will be time to take a hard look at his youthful exuberance VS McCain's experience.

I also wonder how many of Obama's votes are from the ABC party and what will happen to them once Clinton is out of the race.

[cirquelover]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

I'm still here, I'm just not much of a debater so I stay out of the way most of the time

Usually being from Oregon, your vote doesn't count in the primaries anyway. This year may actually be different though, we'll have to wait and see.

Gary is the one in our family who was a debater and follows all the politics of the day. Some days I'm so busy with Zach I'm lucky if I see a tv all day! LoT is my one vice and I try to get here most days. I like LoT better than politics!

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

A public thank you to Sac for posting info. I'm beginning to wonder where all those LoT Obama voters went.

Regarding sound bites - they're sound bites. All sides have them. As always, you want facts, you have to read up on things.

I'm here. I am a LoT Obama voter because I like what he has to say and I am hopeful it is implemented. I am not an ABC or an Anti-Rep voter. I am an Obama voter.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I'm here. I am a LoT Obama voter because I like what he has to say and I am hopeful it is implemented. I am not an ABC or an Anti-Rep voter. I am an Obama voter.

What is implemented? Hope? Change? Promising everyone anything and everything under the sun?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

What is implemented? Hope? Change? Promising everyone anything and everything under the sun?

Getting out of Iraq for starters

Fixing our education system. Let's teach education to learn, not teach to a test that basically leaves kids without knowledge to succeed in life so schools can keep their funding.

Keeping Net Neutrality

Fixing our immigration system without screwing over our economy

These are the things I think can be done. These are the changes I hope are made. These are the things I believe, if they can be changed, it will be by him.

Then there is the whole gay marriage, stem cell research and abortion stance that is very important to me as well.

About.com


Barack Obama and Gay Marriage/ Civil Unions: Although Barack Obama has said that he supports civil unions, he is against gay marriage. In an interview with the Chicago Daily Tribune, Obama said, "I'm a Christian. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue, I do believe that tradition, and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

Barack Obama did vote against a Federal Marriage Amendment and opposed the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996.

He said he would support civil unions between gay and lesbian couples, as well as letting individual states determine if marriage between gay and lesbian couples should be legalized.

On stem cell research and abortion (quote is stem cell research, more info on his abortion stance at that same link:

OnTheIssues.Org

Barack Obama believes we owe it to the American public to explore the potential of stem cells to treat the millions of people suffering from debilitating and life threatening diseases. Stem cells hold the promise of treatments and cures for more than 70 major diseases and conditions such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease, spinal cord injuries, and diabetes. As many as 100 million Americans may benefit from embryonic stem cell research. As president, Obama would:

* Promote Embryonic Stem Cell Research
* Support Medical Advancement and Innovation
* Expand the Number of Stem Cell Lines Available for Research
* Ensure Ethical Standards

Obama introduced legislation in the Illinois Senate to ensure that only those embryos that would otherwise be discarded could be used and that donors would have to provide written consent for the use of the embryos.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer;193893[URL="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/immigration/"

Fixing our immigration system[/url] without screwing over our economy

Because he'll leave screwing the economy to the other portions of his "plan".

I love how he claims to be able to provide "affordable" this or "affordable" that. How?

Much of these things are nothing new. Sorry, but they aren't. The only difference is he gives good speeches.