RtS: IMAX at GardenWalk, Anaheim

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by The Original OC Adventure

Quote? It's been a couple years, but I'll see if I can find it.

I found this link from the Public Transportation Association that has awards for 2007. In 2006 LA county placed just below NY.

OCTA won in 2005 for

for its record ridership gains in the bus and the Metrolink trains that it operates or funds.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by The Original OC Adventure

OCTA has four lines that run 24/7. 60,57,50 and 43. Stay out all night if you want.

SNIP

But consider Harbor Blvd. The 43 line runs 24/7 every 10 minutes during peak hours. If you're going from say, Newport Beach to Disneyland, there's no reason to drive.

Which of those lines will get me to the Honda Center from the Irvine Spectrum by 7pm on a week night (leaving Irvine around 6:15pm) and be able to get me home by 10:15pm or so (leaving around 9:45)? And which of those lines will be able to run the same route on a Sunday, delivering me to the Honda Center by 4:45pm and getting me home at 8:30pm (after leaving around 8pm).

Which of those lines won't take 2.5 hours to get to and from Disneyland and require me to walk or ride my bike several miles late at night (which I will not do)?

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Yeah, late night buses just leave you walking/biking late at night. No thanks.

[RStar]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Plus, do the 9 hours I spend at work REALLY count as "waking life"?

No, that's "Waking Dead". At least watching some of the workers here, it tough to tell that that aren't sleeping....

Also, walking to and from the bus stop is not an option for me as I have a foot problem right now (Mortin's Neurama). I would have to walk about half a mile (not bad normally though).

[Kevy Baby]

I will defend OOCA on the OCTA issue.

While it is not a perfect system, I think the mass transit system in OC has made large advances in recent years. So much of the Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan area was lacking in mass transit since the middle of the last decade. This is not something that is just going to appear overnight. While the system is far from perfect, I think the progress to date has been phenominal.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I will defend OOCA on the OCTA issue.

While it is not a perfect system, I think the mass transit system in OC has made large advances in recent years. So much of the Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan area was lacking in mass transit since the middle of the last decade. This is not something that is just going to appear overnight. While the system is far from perfect, I think the progress to date has been phenominal.

I will not disagree with that. And if someone has the time (either luxury or has to make the time out of necessity) to use it, it will get you from A to B.

I looked in to many options to get to work, and to/from Honda Center. Sadly, they all involved getting on a bus or train several miles from my home. If it was the train I could leave my car there. But I don't think it's all that safe to walk/bike several miles up Sand Canyon or Alton alone at 10:30pm.

[Kevy Baby]

Mass transit systems are not designed to take every person from exactly where they are to exactly where they want to go. They are designed to take existing, heavily traveled, travel routes. Also taken into consideration is the likelihood of the people on that route to abandon their cars for mass transit (for example, while you might see a lot of traffic between Beverly Hills and Century City, I doubt there are a lot of people giving up their Mercedes and BMWs to hop on a bus).

Also, newer, outlying areas are usually not the first to be served by mass transit.

Finally, route schedules are based on demand. For example, the OCTA recently opened a new bus line between Brea and Irvine (they even put a door hanger on my house in Brea to let me know about it). However, the line only runs during "peek" hours. Since I tend to (well, almost always) work late, it wasn't an option for me as the last departure from the location that I would use was around 5:30.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Mass transit systems are not designed to take every person from exactly where they are to exactly where they want to go.

Which is exactly the point. It does a fine job for what it's designed for. My needs are not met by OCTA, the current routes and schedules available offer me very little benefit. Any savings in gas are far outweighed by the time factor for me.

It doesn't serve everyone, it's not meant to serve everyone, and it currently does not meet the needs for the great majority of residents in the county. It very successfully meets the needs they are trying to meet and I applaud them for that, but "Just take the bus!" is impractical advice for almost everyone in the county.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

...but "Just take the bus!" is impractical advice for almost everyone in the county.

Not as much "impractical" as "inconvenient". Your 90 minute commute would not be impractical. Impractical possibly for the late night return from the movies perhaps if there are no buses running near one's house at that hour.

There are plenty of bus lines which I could use to get between home and work, regardless of the hour. They just aren't convenient for me.

And I did not get too far into in my previous post (in response to a different poster), but I doubt that anyone who lives in a metropolitan part of Orange County that would require a multiple-mile bike ride. Maybe from the train station to the house, but that is what the bus is for - transfer from the train to the bus.

[BarTopDancer]

Then KB, I propose you tell me how to get to/from the destinations in my previous post, at the times that I'd need to travel.