Ding Dong bin Laden is gone

[katiesue]

I think I can safely state that no sitting President has ever taken part in any military operation covert or otherwise while in office. It's not the President's job to take part it's to supervise and make the tough calls. And you get it right you get the kudos, you mess it up you get reprimands. This one sounds like it was a fairly risky call that could have very easily gone south at any point. Why can't we all just say good job all around?

[innerSpaceman]

Really? That's a stretch, BTD. Perhaps if you'd been subjected to the disgusting spectacle of Republican political figures falling all over themselves to avoid praising the Obama administration, you would have realized that "Republican meme" refers to Republican operatives and not necessarily rank-and-file voters, whose idiocy has not been on display in the media.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

Really? That's a stretch, BTD. Perhaps if you'd been subjected to the disgusting spectacle of Republican political figures falling all over themselves to avoid praising the Obama administration, you would have realized that "Republican meme" refers to Republican operatives and not necessarily rank-and-file voters, whose idiocy has not been on display in the media.

I know exactly what Republican meme means and if you think I haven't seen the disgusting spectacle you'd be wrong.

Hey, did you hear bin Laden is dead?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

I'm tempted to call this typical backpedaling shenanigans because you're getting called out but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here...

I'm touched by your generosity.

Originally Posted by BarTopDancer

Perhaps you should have quoted the post you were replying to because calling it being the "current Republican meme" knowing SCA and his viewpoints looks an awful lot like directing it at Leo.

I wasn't replying to a post.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by SzczerbiakManiac

Sarah Palin Credits W For Bin Laden's Death

Originally Posted by JWBear

What a nasty piece of work she is.

Originally Posted by JWBear

I was making an observation that was related to what Sarah Palin said.

Originally Posted by JWBear

I wasn't replying to a post.

You weren't replying to the link that SM posted? That's the only thing Palin related in here.

And before Steve jumps all over me again I don't consider Palin to be a Republican political figure. I consider her to be white noise in the background and if the media would just ignore her she would go away. Like Trump. Internet trolls come to life.

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt even though we've seen it many times before, as recently as another current thread [be inflammatory then feign innocence]. Anyway, I'm done with this 'discussion' of intent. And maybe next time, if you really weren't trying to be inflammatory you'll be clearer in your reference to what you are discussing in mixed company.

[scaeagles]

I think from now on I can just refrain from posting and you can write whatever you think I would say, what that really meant, and what I should have said.

I really appreciate how you said it wasn't deep insight. Wow....I thought I was the only person who thought it and figured I should share it with everyone else, knowing everyone else probably wasn't smart enough to have figured that out.

Thank you for your insight, SL. So valuable to me. People like you make this such a great place to post.

[Strangler Lewis]

I probably should have been clearer. The "deep insight" comment was not directed at you but at your defenders who leapt in with "Don't worry, we get it."

And while, yes, you don't have to, you still haven't said if you'd say the same thing if the shoe of killing Osama was on a Republican president's foot.

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

And while, yes, you don't have to, you still haven't said if you'd say the same thing if the shoe of killing Osama was on a Republican president's foot.

Why does this question need to be answered? Why do you keep insisting on making this a partisan political issue?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Strangler Lewis

And while, yes, you don't have to, you still haven't said if you'd say the same thing if the shoe of killing Osama was on a Republican president's foot.

Not an unreasonable request.

Yes, Obama deserves some credit. He absolutely made the call, as it was his alone to make.

Here's what I liken it to. The Berlin wall fell when GHWBush was President. Did he deserve THE credit? Not all, but some, and there was credit due the previous administration of Reagan and the policies thereof.

I also liken it to Carter and the attempt to rescue the Iranian hostages. This was a little unique in that while he authorized it, he also aborted it mid operation. I think he deserves a lot of blame (more than if the operation had simply failed without his mid operational call to abort it), but not all of it. Should it have worked, he would have deserved some credit, but not all

So if Bush were in office, I do think my reaction would be the same.

I think there is WAY too much short term thinking in politics and the American public in general. Very little on a global scale is the result of the policies of one individual or one event. It is an eviolution of relations and policies and events over time, and FAR too often the blame is pointed at one man or one thing. It should be a view of the macro, not the micro.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Here's what I liken it to. The Berlin wall fell when GHWBush was President. Did he deserve THE credit? Not all, but some, and there was credit due the previous administration of Reagan and the policies thereof.

A false analogy, IMO. The fall of the Berlin Wall was not a military action directed by a US President. It had very little to do with the US, in fact.

Your comparison to Carter's action in Iran is more apt. The difference is that Obama's succeeded, where Carter's failed.

And I still can't, for the life of me, figure out why Bush should be congratulated for something that the current administration accomplised that he failed to do in his 8 years in office.