The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux)

[Ghoulish Delight]

Wow, if this doesn't sound like someone in serious closeted denial, I don't know what does.

All porn is gay porn and it makes you gay.

Lemme guess what "logic" was used here:

"I looked at porn, I liked seeing the penises in porn, I became gay. Therefore, porn made me gay!"

[Alex]

If you're getting penis with your Playboy you bought the wrong magazine.

I think the logic is that the raison d'etre of pornography is masturbation which, apparently, is a form of homosexuality or moves you down that road. Since onanism is frowned upon by many religious groups I wouldn't be surprised if such a connection has been made ("we think masturbation is bad and we think homosexuality is bad therefore there must be a connection between the two.")

For me as a youngish boy, though, pornography (I was in 6th grade when I traded a VHS copy of Wrestlemania for some Playboys) mostly made me realize that it might be a good idea to head to bed earlier than I otherwise might have.

[The Lovely Mrs. tod]

Does this mean that masturbation means you're gay, or masturbation makes you gay? Or does porn make you gay? Because I really enjoyed "Flesh Gordon" and I'm wondering if I should continue to wait for the gay thing or if I can just carry on as usual?

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

"I looked at porn, I liked seeing the penises in porn, I became gay. Therefore, porn made me gay!"

They're obviously looking at the wrong porn then.

Or is lesbian porn still acceptable?

[Alex]

I would assume that the view is it is a step down the slippery slope towards homosexuality.

Though it is unclear from the full comments whether he would consider this true only of boys and not girls. The comments were specifically about how to take advantage of young boys not liking gay stuff (except the gay ones, presumably). I'm sure he considers women and porn to be a good thing, so long as it his mistress and not his wife or daughter.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

My oh my! I get lambasted here if I dare point out something done on the left (when the discussion is what is bad on the right) because I'm told that I'm saying "well, your guys do something worse!". Is that where you are taking this? Shocked.

Where's your outrage over the tax cheats in the administration? Or Charles Rangel? We can play this game all day.

I'm not denying that both Democrats and Republicans do immoral and illegal things; it's just that the Republicans seem to do a much better job of getting away with it.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

I'm not denying that both Democrats and Republicans do immoral and illegal things; it's just that the Republicans seem to do a much better job of getting away with it.

Where's the - -....surely you jest.

[scaeagles]

I don't see how lesbian porn can make one gay.

I will offer to be the test subject to see if watching lesbian porn can have such an effect.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

Where's the - -....surely you jest.

No, I'm pretty sure he's not.

Go on and name me any of the large scale corruption matters on the Democratic side. I'm pulling a blank.

Of course, most large corporations are de facto Republican supported, so that's not a fair standard I suppose. The banking industry leans Democrat supported. Lots of bad business there, but pretty much all of the corruption cases were on individuals, not corporations.

The Telecom industry is heavily Democrat supported. I can't think of any corruption scandals there. I believe those are the two industries more supported by the Dem party than the Republican.


On the political side, sorry but again all the big corruption scandals seem to be on the Republican side. I've got to be missing something, because I'm sure the Dems are not averse to corruption. But examples??? I'm again drawing a blank.

[Alex]

Except that by getting caught they are no long in the category of being better at getting away with it.

The examples I read JWBear as using are the wiretapping, lying to get us into war, torture, disenfranchisement of minorities and the poor, etc.

But that runs into the issue I mentioned earlier of assuming that which is being debated. The problem is that for the opposition those things didn't happen or aren't bad in the way JWBear's side views it as bad.

I would agree with a statement that Republicans have been better at accomplishing their agenda on large issues than Democrats over the last 30 years. Whether those agendas is evil will be in the eye of the beholder.