The random political thoughts thread (Part Deux) - Page 617

scaeagles · 09-30-2010, 12:01 PM

Right wing hate sites....good lord. It's all over youtube for anyone that really wants to find it.

Again, not worth it to go tit for tat, so I'm dropping out....although since your source for you republican quotes is off of a left wing hate site I can't really take it seriously anyway. I suppose I could go on some right wing hate sites to find more outrageous quotes than those!

(That's a joke, by the way - relax.)

Ghoulish Delight · 09-30-2010, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

I'm thinking there was something major called Obamacare that was shoved through without anyone reading and Pelosi said something to the effect of "well, we have to pass it so we will know what's in it!". That was pretty major....yes there was opposition, but I think that's what an opposition party is actually for.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time.

Betty · 09-30-2010, 12:34 PM

What gets me is the last round of unemployment being held up by Republicans crying to be more fiscally conservative and touting that the tax credit would be expiring as an example. They filibustered it and left a whole lot of people without benefits for a month. Yes - they caught up but during that month people still have urgent expenses like groceries, gas to get to work, etc. (not to mention rent!)

Now that the unemloyement thing has passed for the moment, where are those Republicans who were saying the tax credit should expire?

Alex · 09-30-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

and Pelosi said something to the effect of "well, we have to pass it so we will know what's in it!". That was pretty major....

I do believe we discussed this at the time but your quote here isn't correct and completely misrepresents what she said.

The full quote was (bolding mine):

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But we have to pass the bill so that you [The National Association of Counties] can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.

She knew what was in the bill. Her colleagues knew what was in the bill. She was telling these local government officials that congress needed to get the bill passed so that these local government officials could begin to act on what was in the bill, with certainty, and without the ongoing debate.

But yes, when you take half of one sentence out of a paragraph in a 5 minutes speech and then change one of the pronouns, then it is easy enough to make the speaker look stupid.

JWBear · 09-30-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

Right wing hate sites....good lord. It's all over youtube for anyone that really wants to find it.

Again, not worth it to go tit for tat, so I'm dropping out....although since your source for you republican quotes is off of a left wing hate site I can't really take it seriously anyway. I suppose I could go on some right wing hate sites to find more outrageous quotes than those!

(That's a joke, by the way - relax.)

When I googled the exact wording you used in your post, all I got were right-wing sites that were screaming about "EVIL MUSLIM SOCIALIST OBAMA". As Alex has posted, the real quote is... well... completely different.

If Huffington Post is a "left wing hate site", then Fox News a far right wing one. I'm sure you'll agree as you seem to like tit-for-tat so much.

innerSpaceman · 09-30-2010, 01:10 PM

scaeagles, no offense, but you just got pwned by Alex, the fact-checking machine. Man up and apologize.

scaeagles · 09-30-2010, 01:16 PM

Indeed I did. I fully withdraw that and admit I did not have that quote in context.

Prudence · 09-30-2010, 01:49 PM

To use Mr. Stewart's language, the opposition party (currently the Republicans) have a stranglehold on accomplishing anything because there are no 100% solutions. We can't discuss or pass 80% solutions because ZOMG! the American people demand perfection. Not only do we demand perfection, we can't even agree what that is. Everyone gets three squares and a cot? Only deserving people are rewarded? Only God's favorites succeed? Population increases/decreases for particular groups? It doesn't matter, as long as you have nicer stuff than your neighbor?

And, actually, I think the football analogy is apt. At all cost, prevent the other side from scoring! Whether the "score" is harmful or beneficial isn't important. Just keep them at zero!

sleepyjeff · 09-30-2010, 03:37 PM

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And, actually, I think the football analogy is apt. At all cost, prevent the other side from scoring! Whether the "score" is harmful or beneficial isn't important. Just keep them at zero!

In football, aside from taking a safety towards the very end of the game for field position purposes, when would it ever be "beneficial" to allow the other team to score

Prudence · 09-30-2010, 05:42 PM

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In football, aside from taking a safety towards the very end of the game for field position purposes, when would it ever be "beneficial" to allow the other team to score

Do you really want politics to *be* a football game?

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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Right wing hate sites....good lord. It's all over youtube for anyone that really wants to find it. Again, not worth it to go tit for tat, so I'm dropping out....although since your source for you republican quotes is off of a left wing hate site I can't really take it seriously anyway. I suppose I could go on some right wing hate sites to find more outrageous quotes than those! (That's a joke, by the way - relax.)
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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	What gets me is the last round of unemployment being held up by Republicans crying to be more fiscally conservative and touting that the tax credit would be expiring as an example. They filibustered it and left a whole lot of people without benefits for a month. Yes - they caught up but during that month people still have urgent expenses like groceries, gas to get to work, etc. (not to mention rent!) Now that the unemloyement thing has passed for the moment, where are those Republicans who were saying the tax credit should expire? __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	scaeagles, no offense, but you just got pwned by Alex, the fact-checking machine. Man up and apologize.
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Indeed I did. I fully withdraw that and admit I did not have that quote in context.
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09-30-2010, 01:49 PM	#6168
Prudence Beelzeboobs, Esq. Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gavel - I haz it Posts: 6,287	To use Mr. Stewart's language, the opposition party (currently the Republicans) have a stranglehold on accomplishing anything because there are no 100% solutions. We can't discuss or pass 80% solutions because ZOMG! the American people demand perfection. Not only do we demand perfection, we can't even agree what that is. Everyone gets three squares and a cot? Only deserving people are rewarded? Only God's favorites succeed? Population increases/decreases for particular groups? It doesn't matter, as long as you have nicer stuff than your neighbor? And, actually, I think the football analogy is apt. At all cost, prevent the other side from scoring! Whether the "score" is harmful or beneficial isn't important. Just keep them at zero! __________________ traguna macoities tracorum satis de
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