Yes, we can.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

I think it is entirely being fueled by the right-wing who realizes all too well that Hillary is the only one of the two that they have any chance of beating.

Recent polling suggests that isn't necessarily true. McCain has an identical lead over both, and Clinton and Obama are consistently neck and neck against the other.

From this link -

Looking ahead to the General Election in November, John McCain continues to lead both potential Democratic opponents. McCain leads Barack Obama 51% to 41% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% (see recent daily results). McCain is now viewed favorably by 56% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 41%. Obama’s reviews are 46% favorable and 52% unfavorable. For Clinton, those numbers are 44% favorable, 54% unfavorable (see recent daily results).

[Motorboat Cruiser]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Recent polling suggests that isn't necessarily true. McCain has an identical lead over both, and Clinton and Obama are consistently neck and neck against the other.

From this link -

The poll I saw this morning showed them all in a statistical dead heat, with Obama slightly ahead of McCain and Clinton slightly behind. Not sure where I read it but if I can find it, I'll post a link.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Motorboat Cruiser

The poll I saw this morning showed them all in a statistical dead heat, with Obama slightly ahead of McCain and Clinton slightly behind. Not sure where I read it but if I can find it, I'll post a link.

Probably the DNC website.

[scaeagles]

Mock outrage? Perhaps.

Obama's pastor has said very controversial things. This much is true. Was the outrage over Trent Lott complimenting....whomever it was (drawing a blank, though I should certianly know who) also manufactured? I think so.

If McCain went to a church that spoke of Arabs or African Americans in the same way the Wright has spoken about Jews and Italians, would that be acceptable of would it be an issue?

And I see no problem with the right wing trying to influence the dems electoral process. I thought open primaries were a good thing? (I don't, really, but many who do find this whole thing to be outrageous.)

[Strangler Lewis]

Re Trent Lott: I assume you mean his suggestion that if Strom Thurmond had been elected president in 1948, the country could have avoided a lot of problems.

I don't know what Wright said about Jews and Italians. I think most of the discussion has focused on what he said about America. As far as John McCain's church goes, since he apparently now goes to a baptist church, I'm guessing they have a few things to say about gays. In general, my expectations about what is said in houses of worship is pretty low.

Before switching affiliation to a baptist church, McCain belonged to Bill Clinton's church, the Church of Flagrant Infidelity. Interestingly, when I checked the Wikipedia page to see what church he went to, I could no longer find the discussion of all the cheating he did on his first wife.

[SacTown Chronic]

And if you're badmouthing America, you best be badmouthing the faggots, the heathens, the feminists, the liberals, and the hedonists. It's always best (safest) to confuse white male fundi fantasy with facts.


Under no conditions are you to imply that America's policies in any way caused the chickens to come home to roost. To do so would be insightful and therefore un-American.

[Scrooge McSam]

Originally Posted by SacTown Chronic

And if you're badmouthing America, you best be badmouthing the faggots

This faggot can't remember if he's ever had bad mouth.

No... I don't think I have.

[SacTown Chronic]

The drugs and alcohol have obviously fried your memory, heathen.

[BarTopDancer]

I think it's Hillary, trying to deflect from her Bosnia exaggerations.

The controversy over the minister died down until hers picked up. Her willingness to exaggerate so freely over something so major (sniper fire is pretty major) scares me. What else is she exaggerating about? The minister controversy concerns me a lot less - yes, the guy made racist and hate filled remarks. Yes, Obama goes to that church and donated money to it. He is also friends with the guy. The guy/church donated a bunch of money to the campaign. Which they donated and equal amount to charity. Personally, I don't care if he is friends with the guy or not. He has shown he can speak for himself, think for himself.

[Scrooge McSam]

Do I know you?