Yes, we can. - Page 68

flippyshark · 03-30-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scaeagles

In general, why is it that disagreement in one area can lead to the complete discounting of everything else? Is Stein really without credibility now in everything?

I am guilty of doing the same on occasion, but I wonder why this is.....

It's a natural tendency, especially if one is already inclined to disagree with the person in question. If you already don't like a certain candidate or public figure, then the first questionable thing they do or say becomes instant justification for your initial hunch. Sometimes, that's all anyone wants or needs.

In principal, you are right, though. This isn't fair. Someone can be absolutely blinkered and deluded about one topic, and rational, lucid or even brilliant in another. Ben Stein has always been a staunch conservative, of course. (He was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon.) Some might, for that reason alone, want to find reason to dismiss him. To me, he's always come off as a smart, likable guy. But, since I accept that evolutionary theory really does explain a great deal of the natural world, (I'm one of those materialist atheistic types), Stein's alliance with the ID'ers does seem tantamount to his joining the Flat Earth Society. (And the fact that the ID movement is primarily driven by fundamentalist Christians, the very Jewish Stein makes a somewhat strange bedfellow. I presume he is a devout Jew who favors a more literal reading of the Torah?)

But to get back on topic, this really shows Barack Obama for what he really is!!!

Alex · 03-31-2008, 10:04 AM

Looks like he's wearing a watch on both wrists, but I assume the right hand is a bracelet of some sort. I'm amazed he actually bowled a full game (assuming he did).

He's a lefty so that's good. But the other day I saw video of him signing something and it looks like he's a wraparound lefty which is bad (self loathing TRAITOR!). Plus, he is wearing his watch on his left wrist, which to me is odd -- since I use the hand so much I find it generally irritating to wear my watch on that side, but I don't know how common that is.

I use to have a bowling average around 200. I wonder if that means I would be a better president.

wendybeth · 03-31-2008, 10:15 AM

His bowling score alone would make me vote for him. I bowled a 52 my first game!

(As a rightie, I can't stand wearing a watch on that wrist. Never thought about it until Alex mentioned it.)

Kevy Baby · 03-31-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I use to have a bowling average around 200. I wonder if that means I would be a better president.

Unless bowling scores have an inverse relationship to presidential ability.

Strangler Lewis · 03-31-2008, 11:19 AM

Some people maybe don't have the necessities to be good bowlers.

As a longtime bowler myself, any celebrity's ability to knock 'em down with style immediately raises their status with me. On the other hand, since the PBA has unfortunately entered a hard-ass attitude era, my feelings about bowling and its cultural/political relevance are more equovical.

Alex · 03-31-2008, 12:02 PM

For anybody interested in the underlying issues in the ministry of Black Liberation Theology (the form preached by Obama's Rev. Wright) there will be an interview with the founder on NPR's Fresh Air this afternoon.

I don't suspect that it will make many people look at Rev. Wright issue differently but should expand the contextual understanding of it.

Morrigoon · 03-31-2008, 01:37 PM

Bowling while wearing a tie..... dork.

He should at least have sent some aide out to get a custom bowling shirt made for him with Obama 08 on it or something.

Ghoulish Delight · 03-31-2008, 01:59 PM

I used to wear my watch on my right wrist as a lefty, but got tired of people bugging me about it (for some reason, it was a big deal in elementary school) so I just learned to deal with the minor annoyances having it on my left causes. At this point I don't even notice, though I do take it off or switch it to my right wrist to bowl.

innerSpaceman · 03-31-2008, 02:28 PM

I used to wear my wristwatch on my left wrist.

Then they invented cell phones.

Morrigoon · 03-31-2008, 02:30 PM

Funny, because I'm a righty, and I wear my watch on my right wrist, which I know is the lefties' way to wear it.

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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Looks like he's wearing a watch on both wrists, but I assume the right hand is a bracelet of some sort. I'm amazed he actually bowled a full game (assuming he did). He's a lefty so that's good. But the other day I saw video of him signing something and it looks like he's a wraparound lefty which is bad (self loathing TRAITOR!). Plus, he is wearing his watch on his left wrist, which to me is odd -- since I use the hand so much I find it generally irritating to wear my watch on that side, but I don't know how common that is. I use to have a bowling average around 200. I wonder if that means I would be a better president.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	For anybody interested in the underlying issues in the ministry of Black Liberation Theology (the form preached by Obama's Rev. Wright) there will be an interview with the founder on NPR's Fresh Air this afternoon. I don't suspect that it will make many people look at Rev. Wright issue differently but should expand the contextual understanding of it.
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Bowling while wearing a tie..... dork. He should at least have sent some aide out to get a custom bowling shirt made for him with Obama 08 on it or something. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	I used to wear my watch on my right wrist as a lefty, but got tired of people bugging me about it (for some reason, it was a big deal in elementary school) so I just learned to deal with the minor annoyances having it on my left causes. At this point I don't even notice, though I do take it off or switch it to my right wrist to bowl. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Funny, because I'm a righty, and I wear my watch on my right wrist, which I know is the lefties' way to wear it. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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