Yes, we can.

[sleepyjeff]

Originally Posted by JWBear

We need a President who can bring people together to fix the problems this nation has.

That President doesn't exist......no way can you fix the problems and bring the people together; at best you can get one or the other.

[Alex]

I can't watch YouTube at work, but I know he wasn't at such a place when the photo I saw was taken. But he probably does at least a dozen appearances a day and I doubt he's changing suits between each one.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Alex

I can't watch YouTube at work, but I know he wasn't at such a place when the photo I saw was taken. But he probably does at least a dozen appearances a day and I doubt he's changing suits between each one.

The YouTube clip is of him speaking to a group of veterans, something about honoring a specific veteran (I gathered this from the comments on the video, I don't have sound on this computer so I don't know the details).

Seems right to me. I hate ties. I don't wear them if I don't have to. But if I'm in a place where there's an unspoken "wear a tie" dress code, I wear a tie. And you just don't speak in front of a veterans' group without some sort of "patriotic" regalia.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate.

Errr, Lugar-Obama. Coburn-Obama. And many more from his decade+ stint in Illinois. But I suppose facts shouldn't get in the way of good punditry.

As for his voting record being liberal...duh. He's liberal. It's not about voting record. It's about attitude. It's about his ability to talk to everyone like they're adults and not condescend his opponents.

[scaeagles]

I like what Dr. Thomas Sowell has to say about Obama regarding "bringing people together".

Senator Obama's election year image is that of a man who can bring the country together, overcoming differences of party or race, as well as solving our international problems by talking with Iran and other countries with which we are at odds, and performing other miscellaneous miracles as needed.

There is, of course, not a speck of evidence that Obama has ever transcended party differences in the United States Senate.

[JWBear]

And of course, you completely missed my point.

[Alex]

I'll say it before and I'll say it again. What I am looking for in a political leader is not necessarily someone who will achieve unanimity.

I'll be happy to have one that is capable of pursuing their agenda without treating the opposition as a hated enemy. I currently support Obama for president and I fully expect that once elected I will disagree with the vast majority of his policy positions and proposals.

And he may not have shown an ability to transcend party differences in the Senate but he certainly has in the presidential race. I know a lot of Republicans who are for him and not in a cynical "drag out the race to the advantage of McCain" way, but they actually think he'll be a better president.

I've never understood the idea that bipartisanship is supposed to mean "even though you're on the other side of the aisle you'll support my point of view." I don't think transcending party requires that Obama ever endorse or support a single Republican issue, nor is the same required of McCain or whomever.

Now, whether Obama will actually achieve this change in tone and atmosphere I strongly doubt. I just don't think the other two will even try. And if he is elected I will politely and respectfully oppose his agenda where I disagree with it. And I'll ultimately be on the losing side of some and the winning side of others and if that can happen without being expected to hate the other side then I'll be happy.

[flippyshark]

Originally Posted by Alex

I'll say it before and I'll say it again. What I am looking for in a political leader is not necessarily someone who will achieve unanimity.

I'll be happy to have one that is capable of pursuing their agenda without treating the opposition as a hated enemy. I currently support Obama for president and I fully expect that once elected I will disagree with the vast majority of his policy positions and proposals.

And he may not have shown an ability to transcend party differences in the Senate but he certainly has in the presidential race. I know a lot of Republicans who are for him and not in a cynical "drag out the race to the advantage of McCain" way, but they actually think he'll be a better president.

I've never understood the idea that bipartisanship is supposed to mean "even though you're on the other side of the aisle you'll support my point of view." I don't think transcending party requires that Obama ever endorse or support a single Republican issue, nor is the same required of McCain or whomever.

Now, whether Obama will actually achieve this change in tone and atmosphere I strongly doubt. I just don't think the other two will even try. And if he is elected I will politely and respectfully oppose his agenda where I disagree with it. And I'll ultimately be on the losing side of some and the winning side of others and if that can happen without being expected to hate the other side then I'll be happy.

Totally in the "wish I had said that" category! Thanks!

[Kevy Baby]

I can't believe I just passed an argument about wearing a lapel pin. Is this really all we have to discuss?

I don't care what kind of spin someone tries to put on it from either side: it's a freakin' non-issue.

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I can't believe I just passed an argument about wearing a lapel pin. Is this really all we have to discuss?

I don't care what kind of spin someone tries to put on it from either side: it's a freakin' non-issue.

Thank you! That was my point!

[SacTown Chronic]

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

I can't believe I just passed an argument about wearing a lapel pin. Is this really all we have to discuss?

Tell it to Disney and their serious, traditional news division.