Wireless networking hell

Ghoulish Delight · 05-06-2011, 09:44 PM

AAAARGH!

New laptop. Everthing's great, but I'm having SERIOUS issue with networking.

Here's the summary:

I'm trying to file share between our desktop (connected via a wire to the router) and the laptop (connected via wireless). I can't even ping between them. Neither by name nor IP. Pinging by name fails to even resolve an IP.

However here's what does work. The laptop has internet access on the wireless network. If I plug the laptop into the router via a cable. Also, from the laptop (when on wireless), I can ping any other wireless device, but no wired devices.

The desktop can ping all other devices, wired and wireless, but can't ping the laptop.

I've already disabled all firewalls, checked every god damned file and network sharing setting in the universe. All seems right. And this setup worked fine in the past with the same router (but different desktop and laptop).

Here are my 3 guesses:

1) Problem with router settings. I find this unlikely because it used to work with the old computers, and the desktop can talk just fine with the other wireless devices on the router

2) Problem with the wireless adapter itself. This seems most likely to me, something that the wireless adapter is doing is preventing the router from moving packets from wireless to wired and vice versa (although it can get out to the internet via a wire, so that seems odd)

3) Out of date router. This is an old router, purchased when Wireless-N was brand spanking new (so new it wasn't even officially a protocol yet). It could be that this brand new laptop is using technology that the router has no idea what to do with.

I'm really hoping it's #3, but wouldn't mind if someone happens to be able to think of anything else I can try.

Betty · 05-07-2011, 07:20 AM

Reboot! (lol)

RStar · 05-07-2011, 08:44 AM

You've covered everything I can think of, except for gremlins! I think it's time for a new router (at least it's a good excuse to upgrade!).

Good luck, I hope you get this resolved quickly!

JWBear · 05-07-2011, 09:35 AM

Maybe it's low on magic smoke.

scaeagles · 05-07-2011, 09:47 AM

I had similar problems when I got a newer desktop - had all sorts of problems with my old router, and tried everything I could think of till I bit the bullet and purchased a new router. Problem solved. So I say option 3 is your issue.

Of course, now one of my older laptops hoses the entire network when I try to connect it wirelessly (hard wired it's fine). Freakin conspiracy of hardware manufacturers to ensure continued payouts from consumers, i say!

Ghoulish Delight · 05-07-2011, 01:34 PM

Bit the bullet and got a new router. Lo and behold, problem solved. Weird. Oh well, long over due for a new router anyway.

Kevy Baby · 05-07-2011, 02:52 PM

Did you try a little percussive maintenance first?

Maybe jiggling the doohicky might have helped.

lashbear · 05-07-2011, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevy Baby

Did you try a little percussive maintenance first?

Maybe jiggling the doohicky might have helped.

That's always the first thing I try.

RStar · 05-07-2011, 07:24 PM

As my plummer friend who works at Disneyland always says:

If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway!

I'm glad your up and running, sharing files to your heart's content!

05-06-2011, 09:44 PM	#1
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Wireless networking hell AAAARGH! New laptop. Everthing's great, but I'm having SERIOUS issue with networking. Here's the summary: I'm trying to file share between our desktop (connected via a wire to the router) and the laptop (connected via wireless). I can't even ping between them. Neither by name nor IP. Pinging by name fails to even resolve an IP. However here's what does work. The laptop has internet access on the wireless network. If I plug the laptop into the router via a cable. Also, from the laptop (when on wireless), I can ping any other wireless device, but no wired devices. The desktop can ping all other devices, wired and wireless, but can't ping the laptop. I've already disabled all firewalls, checked every god damned file and network sharing setting in the universe. All seems right. And this setup worked fine in the past with the same router (but different desktop and laptop). Here are my 3 guesses: 1) Problem with router settings. I find this unlikely because it used to work with the old computers, and the desktop can talk just fine with the other wireless devices on the router 2) Problem with the wireless adapter itself. This seems most likely to me, something that the wireless adapter is doing is preventing the router from moving packets from wireless to wired and vice versa (although it can get out to the internet via a wire, so that seems odd) 3) Out of date router. This is an old router, purchased when Wireless-N was brand spanking new (so new it wasn't even officially a protocol yet). It could be that this brand new laptop is using technology that the router has no idea what to do with. I'm really hoping it's #3, but wouldn't mind if someone happens to be able to think of anything else I can try. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Betty Kicking up my heels! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Silver State Posts: 3,783	Reboot! (lol) __________________ Nee Stell Thue
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RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	You've covered everything I can think of, except for gremlins! I think it's time for a new router (at least it's a good excuse to upgrade!). Good luck, I hope you get this resolved quickly! __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
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scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	I had similar problems when I got a newer desktop - had all sorts of problems with my old router, and tried everything I could think of till I bit the bullet and purchased a new router. Problem solved. So I say option 3 is your issue. Of course, now one of my older laptops hoses the entire network when I try to connect it wirelessly (hard wired it's fine). Freakin conspiracy of hardware manufacturers to ensure continued payouts from consumers, i say!
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05-07-2011, 01:34 PM	#6
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Bit the bullet and got a new router. Lo and behold, problem solved. Weird. Oh well, long over due for a new router anyway. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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05-07-2011, 02:52 PM	#7
Kevy Baby Chowder Head Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 18,500	Did you try a little percussive maintenance first? Maybe jiggling the doohicky might have helped. __________________ The thing about quotes on the internet is that you cannot verify their validity. - Abraham Lincoln
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RStar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Me & Manyard hangin out! Posts: 5,433	As my plummer friend who works at Disneyland always says: If it jams, force it. If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway! I'm glad your up and running, sharing files to your heart's content! __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup! www.StarTownGifts.com
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