"White House Iraq Group" WH Memo-

PanTheMan · 10-12-2005, 12:55 AM

Interesting stuff.... High Crimes?....Hmmmmm
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"Escalation of Rhetoric"

Quote:

"In September 2002, the White House was beginning a major press offensive designed to prove that Iraq had a robust nuclear weapons program. That campaign was meant to culminate in the president's Oct. 7 speech in Cincinnati."

Nephythys · 10-12-2005, 06:54 AM

No link?

Come on

scaeagles · 10-12-2005, 07:26 AM

Well, Pan, anything that references the Downing Street Memo doesn't cut it with me. The "journalist" who reported disclosed it couldn't produce the original. Why?

"Well," the 'journalist' said (paraphrasing), "i rewrote it in my own words to make it more clear and destroyed the original."

Sorry. Can't take that seriously.

Debate could rage on about the yellow cake uranium. I think Wilson is a fraud and have documented why in the past. Others do not think so.

As well, and I have in the past, I could list the leading democrats who also believed the Saddam had WMD. They all said it during the Clinton administration, by the way. So again, I yawn.

I could also list the foreign intelligence services - including many who were against the invasion of Iraq - who told us he had WMD.

So....more of the same old rhetoric, same old things. I will never convince you, and you will never convince me. We've gone around this so many times on this board.

Yawn.

Ghoulish Delight · 10-12-2005, 08:11 AM

Pan, if this is an article from somewhere, please remove the full text, provide a link, and quote a small portion.

Alex · 10-12-2005, 08:26 AM

Looks like it came from here (or there's a common source):

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...use_Iraq_Group

sleepyjeff · 10-12-2005, 09:29 AM

"SourceWatch is an encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda."

From the bottom of their own website.

I think this alone discounts anything they have to say. They admit right here that they are attempting to "Shape" the public agenda. Not report...shape

Ghoulish Delight · 10-12-2005, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyjeff

"SourceWatch is an encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda."

From the bottom of their own website.

I think this alone discounts anything they have to say. They admit right here that they are attempting to "Shape" the public agenda. Not report...shape

Are they saying THEY are attempting to do that, or that the entries in the encyclopedia are examples of people, issues, and groups trying to do that?

Ghoulish Delight · 10-12-2005, 09:37 AM

Looks like it's the latter...

From their main page.

Quote:

The nonprofit Center for Media and Democracy works to strengthen democracy by promoting media that are "of, by and for the people." Our projects include PR Watch, a quarterly investigative journal; five books by CMD staff; Spin of the Day, which offers daily reporting on spin and propaganda in the news; and SourceWatch, a wiki-based investigative journalism resource to which anyone, including you, can contribute.

They report on spin.

Reaver · 10-12-2005, 10:19 AM

Rewriting history, shaping legacies. Who needs facts?

PanTheMan · 10-12-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Pan, if this is an article from somewhere, please remove the full text, provide a link, and quote a small portion.

Nice....What i posted was not an Article BUT if you go to "Wickapedia" and type in "White house Iraq Group" this is what you get.

Thanks for the Censorship!

10-12-2005, 06:54 AM	#2
Nephythys Yeah, that's about it- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a state of constant crap to get done Posts: 2,688	No link? Come on
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10-12-2005, 07:26 AM	#3
scaeagles I LIKE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,819	Well, Pan, anything that references the Downing Street Memo doesn't cut it with me. The "journalist" who reported disclosed it couldn't produce the original. Why? "Well," the 'journalist' said (paraphrasing), "i rewrote it in my own words to make it more clear and destroyed the original." Sorry. Can't take that seriously. Debate could rage on about the yellow cake uranium. I think Wilson is a fraud and have documented why in the past. Others do not think so. As well, and I have in the past, I could list the leading democrats who also believed the Saddam had WMD. They all said it during the Clinton administration, by the way. So again, I yawn. I could also list the foreign intelligence services - including many who were against the invasion of Iraq - who told us he had WMD. So....more of the same old rhetoric, same old things. I will never convince you, and you will never convince me. We've gone around this so many times on this board. Yawn.
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10-12-2005, 08:11 AM	#4
Ghoulish Delight I Floop the Pig Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alternative Swankstyle Posts: 19,348	Pan, if this is an article from somewhere, please remove the full text, provide a link, and quote a small portion. __________________ 'He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.' -TJ
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Looks like it came from here (or there's a common source): http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...use_Iraq_Group
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sleepyjeff Go Hawks Go! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parkrose Posts: 2,632	"SourceWatch is an encyclopedia of people, issues and groups shaping the public agenda." From the bottom of their own website. I think this alone discounts anything they have to say. They admit right here that they are attempting to "Shape" the public agenda. Not report...shape __________________ River Guardian-less
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Reaver Browncoat Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Universe... Posts: 28	Rewriting history, shaping legacies. Who needs facts? __________________ Things get damaged, things get broken. I though we'd manage, but things left unspoken left us so brittle. There was so little left to give...
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