NSA eavesdropping program ruled unconstitutional

[Eliza Hodgkins 1812]

If this has already been addressed, I apologize.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/...uit/index.html

[Betty]

'bout time.

[Nephythys]

doen't mean anything- it'll get pushed up and we will see what SCOTUS does. Somehow I think (and hope) they will have more respect for the FISA court than this judge did.

[Alex]

This judge has complete respect for the FISA court since the ruling says that Bush has to use it.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

This judge has complete respect for the FISA court since the ruling says that Bush has to use it.

Meh, I disagree- no surprise there. We'll see what happens.

[Ghoulish Delight]

Originally Posted by Nephythys

Meh, I disagree- no surprise there. We'll see what happens.

Care to elaborate? The NSA program completely circumvents FISA. This ruling mandates that any such wire tapping would have to be cleared by FISA (either prior to action, or retroactively. I think FISA rules give something like 3 days). So how does the ruling disrespect FISA?

[JWBear]

Originally Posted by Ghoulish Delight

Care to elaborate? The NSA program completely circumvents FISA. This ruling mandates that any such wire tapping would have to be cleared by FISA (either prior to action, or retroactively. I think FISA rules give something like 3 days). So how does the ruling disrespect FISA?

You forget...

Everything Bush does is wonderful, and necessary to preserve freedom and democracy (oops! I mean republicanism… America is not a democracy).

Anyone who doesn’t wholeheartedly support all of Bush’s actions 100% is a whacko, terrorist loving, liberal.

[Alex]

It isn't an issue of opinion but of fact. Read the dang opinion.

The irreparable injury conversely sustained by Defendent [the United States government] under this injunction may be rectified by compliance with our Constitution and/or statutory law as amended, if necessary.

Bolding mine.

The statutory law with which the judge finds the government out of compliance is FISA (see page 28, 31 of the PDF). The finding is that the government has intentionally tried to circumvent FISA. That if anybody isn't showing respect for FISA it is the president of the United States.

[Nephythys]

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

It isn't an issue of opinion but of fact. Read the dang opinion.



Bolding mine.

The statutory law with which the judge finds the government out of compliance is FISA (see page 28, 31 of the PDF). The finding is that the government has intentionally tried to circumvent FISA. That if anybody isn't showing respect for FISA it is the president of the United States.

I clearly misread something on another site- gonna look at it more before commenting again on it.

Though I still stand by denial of the stuff posted by JWBear- thanks

[Nephythys]

*finding link*

apparantly some analysts think this will be overturned as the people bringing the case may not have had standing to bring the case at all. Meaning they could not show that they had been harmed, or would be harmed in the future by the program.