Pallywood

Tramspotter · 10-02-2006, 01:39 PM

Manufactured sympathy

Does this sit well with you

Not Afraid · 10-02-2006, 01:52 PM

That was the most BORING thing I've watched in a while. Granted, I didn't watch all of it. Maybe it had a point in there somewhere near the end.

Alex · 10-02-2006, 01:56 PM

I've seen other examples of such debunking from the same people. I'm aonly about halfway through this one but it is better than most. Generally I find them to do a little too much black-box conspiracy-mongering that I find similarly distasteful in the 9/11-conspiracies crowd.

Using minute amounts of unclear evidence to draw much larger pictures. However, in the first half I think the shooting in the empty room and the living corpse are compelling images.

But I'm also not surprised by the manipulation and if you watch the news closely you'll frequently hear reporters talk about the Palestinian attempts to stage scenes (Anderson Cooper is good about this) but I'm not so eager to quickly jump on the idea that most reporters are willing participants or that this even comprises a significant portion of coverage.

Moonliner · 10-02-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Manufactured sympathy

Does this sit well with you

I see a biased "documentary" chronicaling the struggle of a people fighting an enemy with vastly superior resources in any way they can.

Alex · 10-02-2006, 02:09 PM

So you agree that they're staging events?

If so, how should the media handle the film from those events?

Moonliner · 10-02-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

So you agree that they're staging events?

If so, how should the media handle the film from those events?

Certainly both sides of this issue are media savvy and are manipulating news and information to best suit their needs.

Do you think propaganda is a one sided affair in any conflict?

Just in light of the admitted photo doctoring we saw recently, I would hope the international press is raising it's standards when reporting the actions of either side.

Alex · 10-02-2006, 02:24 PM

Of course propaganda isn't a one sided affair. And that video, though it only focuses on one side, doesn't say it is. It also doesn't question the motivations of those staging the scenes.

It is a recrimation of the mainstream media for airing as authentic footage they should be aware is staged and attempts to lay out why it should be apparent.

I disagree that it is as apparent as they feel it is. And other presentations by the same people (or at least with the same narrator) aren't as good as this one, which I still question.

Not Afraid · 10-02-2006, 02:29 PM

Based on the title and where it was going, I was looking for the Holywood sign to appear in a shot. But, I'm an idiot.

Moonliner · 10-02-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

It is a recrimation of the mainstream media for airing as authentic footage they should be aware is staged and attempts to lay out why it should be apparent.

I would label it as pro-Israeli propaganda made to erode confidence in both the news media and the Palestinians. Like and good ~~lie~~ propaganda it helps project believability if you add a bit of the truth in it.

Alex · 10-02-2006, 02:40 PM

Duh.

But it still raises the question. If 60 Minutes should reasonably have known the footage was staged, should they have aired it?

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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	That was the most BORING thing I've watched in a while. Granted, I didn't watch all of it. Maybe it had a point in there somewhere near the end.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I've seen other examples of such debunking from the same people. I'm aonly about halfway through this one but it is better than most. Generally I find them to do a little too much black-box conspiracy-mongering that I find similarly distasteful in the 9/11-conspiracies crowd. Using minute amounts of unclear evidence to draw much larger pictures. However, in the first half I think the shooting in the empty room and the living corpse are compelling images. But I'm also not surprised by the manipulation and if you watch the news closely you'll frequently hear reporters talk about the Palestinian attempts to stage scenes (Anderson Cooper is good about this) but I'm not so eager to quickly jump on the idea that most reporters are willing participants or that this even comprises a significant portion of coverage.
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10-02-2006, 02:09 PM	#5
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	So you agree that they're staging events? If so, how should the media handle the film from those events?
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10-02-2006, 02:24 PM	#7
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Of course propaganda isn't a one sided affair. And that video, though it only focuses on one side, doesn't say it is. It also doesn't question the motivations of those staging the scenes. It is a recrimation of the mainstream media for airing as authentic footage they should be aware is staged and attempts to lay out why it should be apparent. I disagree that it is as apparent as they feel it is. And other presentations by the same people (or at least with the same narrator) aren't as good as this one, which I still question.
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Not Afraid HI! Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 17,108	Based on the title and where it was going, I was looking for the Holywood sign to appear in a shot. But, I'm an idiot.
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Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Duh. But it still raises the question. If 60 Minutes should reasonably have known the footage was staged, should they have aired it?
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