Judge finds CAs marriage law unconstitutional

BarTopDancer · 03-14-2005, 02:10 PM

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...n121337S24.DTL

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"It appears that no rational purpose exists for limiting marriage in this state to opposite-sex partners," Kramer wrote.

The judge wrote that the state's historical definition of marriage, by itself, cannot justify the unconstitutional denial of equal protection for gays and lesbians and their right to marry.

"The state's protracted denial of equal protection cannot be justified simply because such constitutional violation has become traditional," Kramer wrote.

Kramer's decision came in a pair of lawsuits seeking to overturn California's statutory ban on gay marriage. They were brought by the city of San Francisco and a dozen same-sex couples last March, after the California Supreme Court halted the four-week marriage spree Mayor Gavin Newsom had initiated when he directed city officials to issue marriage licenses to gays and lesbians in defiance of state law.

"Today's ruling is an important step toward a more fair and just California, that rejects discrimination and affirms family values for all California families," San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera said.

innerSpaceman · 03-14-2005, 04:04 PM

Motorboat Cruiser · 03-14-2005, 04:11 PM

It is good news indeed but it will all be nullified if California eventually passes a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. Hopefully, the people of this state are a bit more open-minded than some of the others but for some reason, I doubt it.

There is still lots of fear out there concerning two people loving each other, as if it will destroy all of society.

BarTopDancer · 03-14-2005, 04:25 PM

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It is good news indeed but it will all be nullified if California eventually passes a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. Hopefully, the people of this state are a bit more open-minded than some of the others but for some reason, I doubt it.

I fear you are correct considering a law banning same sex marriages passed within the last 7 years (I forget when).

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There is still lots of fear out there concerning two people loving each other, as if it will destroy all of society.

Yup. Cause you know that once you allow gay people to marry then you have to allow people to marry their pets and their daughters/sons and farm animals!

It's too bad that the same people spending so much time and energy on banning gay marriage can't expel that same amount of energy on fixing our crumbling schools and helping our starving and homeless citizens.

Jazzman · 03-14-2005, 05:15 PM

I have to often laugh because it's usually the same people crying that their rights are being limited, because the ten commandments are being removed from public land, that scream the loudest to limit marriage to straight couples. "Take away their rights, but leave ours the hell alone!" Hypocrisy at its finest.

Gemini Cricket · 03-14-2005, 05:23 PM

alphabassettgrrl · 03-15-2005, 04:28 PM

Yep. Headlines on both my city's newspaper and the LA Times. Yee-hawww!

Chernabog · 03-17-2005, 05:59 PM

This is great news (and of course the backlash has already started). I have faith that we will eventually have the right to marry our partners without state intervention, but even in my wildest dreams I never imagined stuff like this to happen so soon.

It'll be great when Jewish mothers start nagging their gay sons and daughters : So, why aren't ya married yet???

Gemini Cricket · 03-17-2005, 06:25 PM

We're the Freedom Country. We should have had this federally recognized right a long time ago.

Chernabog · 03-17-2005, 06:43 PM

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We're the Freedom Country. We should have had this federally recognized right a long time ago.

LMAO... and which Canadian province did we wake up in this morning, Gemini?

An interesting little tidbit that I read in the Daily Journal (Lawyer's Newspaper in California) told how people who got married in Massachusetts have to fill out FOUR tax returns, twice the usual number: 1) Massachusetts joint filing 2 & 3) Federal individual filings and 4) Federal joint filing, since Massachusetts taxes are based on the federal filing. Usually married couples just have to fill out two, just like the rest of us single folk.

As far as federal recognition is concerned, Clinton signed the federal DOMA. It certainly won't be overturned by Georgie the Wonder Chimp.

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