CA Ballot Propositions 2008

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-26-2008, 01:36 PM

Anyone read their booklet yet?

I still am divided regarding bond measures in general. Sometimes, it seems like the only way to get things done. Others, it seems like we should just put more pressure on lawmakers to get these things paid for.

So far, I'm digging the high speed rail idea. Seems worth it.

Humane treatment of farm animals - I'm a recent convert and would like to see this pass.

Hospital bond, meh. Waiting period and parental notification for abortions, no. I have to read the drug offenses one more, because it may have some interesting loopholes. Prop 6 (more money for law enforcement programs) seems like something the gov't should delegate on its own.

Prop 7, on forcing utilities into renewable energy generation, looks pretty good to me. The argument against seems to be that small solar/wind companies may be priced out of the market.....which doesn't sound too bad to me, really.

Prop 8, um, no.

Prop 9 seems unnecessary. Prop 10 is mostly about natural gas which seems another drilling speed bump on the way to renewable energy, so no thanks.

Prop 11 is interesting - who do you trust to draw districts, "politicians and bureaucrats" or "people who aren't held accountable and don't face a vote" (citizens)? Hmm...

Opinions subject to change without notice.

Gemini Cricket · 09-26-2008, 01:49 PM

I didn't get a booklet! I call shenanigans! Mail fraud! It's a conspiracy!

I did register though.

Cadaverous Pallor · 09-26-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gemini Cricket

I didn't get a booklet! I call shenanigans! Mail fraud! It's a conspiracy!

I did register though.

Your local library should have them.

Alex · 09-26-2008, 02:22 PM

Got it today and haven't looked at it yet. But unless there is something absolutely compelling my vote will be NO on each of them.

Andrew · 09-26-2008, 02:31 PM

Got mine yesterday, haven't looked at it yet. The ones I know how I will vote are 1A (YES) and 8 (NO). My default position on initiatives and bond issues is NO, and that's reinforced every time I get my property tax bill and see how much of my money is going to the failed school district. I do support infrastructure bonds if they're well-constructed.

Morrigoon · 09-26-2008, 02:43 PM

Just got the booklet. I guess they're saving paper by only sending one per household? Probably not a terrible idea, but since the bf and I have different surnames, seems they should have sent two.

I'll have to look into the high-speed rail thing, what are they proposing (ie: where?)

8 is a no, that's my main motivation for making it to the polls this November.

Ghoulish Delight · 09-26-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Morrigoon

I'll have to look into the high-speed rail thing, what are they proposing (ie: where?)

If it's the one I've been hearing about, SD to SF through LA.

Morrigoon · 09-26-2008, 02:57 PM

FINALLY a train from SF to (okay, thru) LA? Awesome. Totally for that, esp. with airfare these days.

innerSpaceman · 09-26-2008, 02:59 PM

I only want high-speed rail if it's L.A. to Vegas.

And are you meaning to tell me there's ballot propositions other than Prop 8???

Andrew · 09-26-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

I only want high-speed rail if it's L.A. to Vegas.

That's a different proposal, not so far advanced as of yet.

09-26-2008, 01:36 PM	#1
Cadaverous Pallor ohhhh baby Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Parental Bliss Posts: 12,364	CA Ballot Propositions 2008 Anyone read their booklet yet? I still am divided regarding bond measures in general. Sometimes, it seems like the only way to get things done. Others, it seems like we should just put more pressure on lawmakers to get these things paid for. So far, I'm digging the high speed rail idea. Seems worth it. Humane treatment of farm animals - I'm a recent convert and would like to see this pass. Hospital bond, meh. Waiting period and parental notification for abortions, no. I have to read the drug offenses one more, because it may have some interesting loopholes. Prop 6 (more money for law enforcement programs) seems like something the gov't should delegate on its own. Prop 7, on forcing utilities into renewable energy generation, looks pretty good to me. The argument against seems to be that small solar/wind companies may be priced out of the market.....which doesn't sound too bad to me, really. Prop 8, um, no. Prop 9 seems unnecessary. Prop 10 is mostly about natural gas which seems another drilling speed bump on the way to renewable energy, so no thanks. Prop 11 is interesting - who do you trust to draw districts, "politicians and bureaucrats" or "people who aren't held accountable and don't face a vote" (citizens)? Hmm... Opinions subject to change without notice. __________________ The second star to the right shines in the night for you
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09-26-2008, 01:49 PM	#2
Gemini Cricket ... Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,244	I didn't get a booklet! I call shenanigans! Mail fraud! It's a conspiracy! I did register though.
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09-26-2008, 02:22 PM	#4
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	Got it today and haven't looked at it yet. But unless there is something absolutely compelling my vote will be NO on each of them.
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09-26-2008, 02:31 PM	#5
Andrew Making Good Girls Go Bad Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 734	Got mine yesterday, haven't looked at it yet. The ones I know how I will vote are 1A (YES) and 8 (NO). My default position on initiatives and bond issues is NO, and that's reinforced every time I get my property tax bill and see how much of my money is going to the failed school district. I do support infrastructure bonds if they're well-constructed. __________________ -- Andrew Just Andrew. Do I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. (I am large, I contain multitudes.) -- Walt Whitman, "Song of Myself"
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09-26-2008, 02:43 PM	#6
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	Just got the booklet. I guess they're saving paper by only sending one per household? Probably not a terrible idea, but since the bf and I have different surnames, seems they should have sent two. I'll have to look into the high-speed rail thing, what are they proposing (ie: where?) 8 is a no, that's my main motivation for making it to the polls this November. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-26-2008, 02:57 PM	#8
Morrigoon I throw stones at houses Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Location: Location Posts: 9,534	FINALLY a train from SF to (okay, thru) LA? Awesome. Totally for that, esp. with airfare these days. __________________ http://bash.org/?top "It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." -- William Randolph Inge
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09-26-2008, 02:59 PM	#9
innerSpaceman Kink of Swank Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inner Space Posts: 13,075	I only want high-speed rail if it's L.A. to Vegas. And are you meaning to tell me there's ballot propositions other than Prop 8???
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