Yes, we can.

[Alex]

I'd like to think that was an intentional blending of hearsay and heresy.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Because he'll leave screwing the economy to the other portions of his "plan".

If we tighten our boarders, the migrant farm workers, the people who do the grunt work most American's won't do for the pay will disappear. Like it or not, the pisspoor wages that undocumented workers are paid to work in fields keep the cost of our produce low. I believe that he will find a way to tighten our boarders without the ripple effect of higher wages paying to documented workers.

I love how he claims to be able to provide "affordable" this or "affordable" that. How?

Ending the war will free up a few billion dollars.

Much of these things are nothing new. Sorry, but they aren't. The only difference is he gives good speeches.

They may be the same ideas and he may give good speeches, but I believe he is the only person running who I believe will do his damndest to try. He's the only one with a chance of nomination who hasn't been around the greenbelt a few dozen times and now has people with their hands out looking for their payback.

[Not Afraid]

I think the thing that scares me the most about Obama is his talk. It's not that I don't like what he's saying, I just think he's going to end up in a classic over-promise and under-deliver situation. I've seen it too many times and I don't believe he CAN do it. I would rather the President be a little more realistic and not so pie in the sky.

[Kevy Baby]

I'm still waiting for the 61st Amendment to be passed.

[wendybeth]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

What is implemented? Hope? Change? Promising everyone anything and everything under the sun?

I mostly like the idea of Iraq not becoming another Hundred Year's War. We all know how well that worked out for Europe.

It's Obama's idealism that I like. Sure, he may not get things done that he wants to do, but he's not the only ('Read my lips' ring a bell?) person to have ever made (gasp!) campaign promises that probably will never come to fruition. McCain, on the other hand, comes out as a tired, jaded old soldier- not that there's anything wrong with that, but hardly uplifting and inspirational.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

I think the thing that scares me the most about Obama is his talk. It's not that I don't like what he's saying, I just think he's going to end up in a classic over-promise and under-deliver situation. I've seen it too many times and I don't believe he CAN do it. I would rather the President be a little more realistic and not so pie in the sky.

But don't he and Clinton both essentially make all of the same promises? He just does it with better speeches.

Is it that you think she is more likely to deliver?

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by wendybeth

he's not the only ('Read my lips' ring a bell?) person to have ever made (gasp!) campaign promises that probably will never come to fruition.

If elected, I hope none of his campaign promises come to fruition.

[innerSpaceman]

Originally Posted by Alex

But don't he and Clinton both essentially make all of the same promises? He just does it with better speeches.

Is it that you think she is more likely to deliver?

Not to speak for Not Afraid, but it was that other Clinton that's exactly why we don't feel like getting fooled again.

It's quite a bit easier to give inspirational speeaches and even have your heart in the right place. Quite another to perform in that fashion once esconced in the White House.

We've been there, seen that.


Obama's sweet but hot air just does not impress me.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

If elected, I hope none of his campaign promises come to fruition.

None?

You want to see us in Iraq, our children failing because of teaching to "the test", borders remain open and the internet become for fee free-for-all.

Wow. I fear for our future.

Oh wait. That's why I'm voting for change and for someone who can bring change about.

[Not Afraid]

Originally Posted by Alex

But don't he and Clinton both essentially make all of the same promises? He just does it with better speeches.

Essentially? Yes. They really aren't that much different of a package if you take away the personalities. He's just got a better marketing machine behind him and is a more "personable" guy. That doesn't sway me much because, I'm looking for a good president, not a best friend.

Originally Posted by Alex

Is it that you think she is more likely to deliver?

Who knows, but she's had a bird's-eye view of the presidential seat and I think that will be very helpful to her should she win.