The DR is in

[Cadaverous Pallor]

I'll readily admit that some of this thread is flying right over my head (Aristotle? Jim Jackman?) but as usual I don't care enough about a Daily Grind thread to actually look things up.

Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Certain methods of lobbying should be against the law since they are essentially bribery or blackmail but at root, lobbying is just talking.

I'd guarantee you my immortal soul if you can bring me a person employed as a <erk> lobbyist who does not give "gifts" to representatives.

Any "gift", no matter how small or incidental, completely negates the concept of equal representation for all, no matter how the rep ends up voting. This is my solid stance on the profession.

If lobbying actually was "just talking", I'd have no problem with it.

Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Messangers smessengers.

How dare they come here to my street and disrespect my car! or my houseguests this is SPARTA!!!!!! (If only there was a pothhole deap enough that I could kick that bitch into)

Yet again, I have no idea if you're completely joking or half-serious or WTF. It would be nice if I did.

You guys are completely right to dismiss this guy based on his vocation point of view and his call to action media and political messages.

It would also be nice if you actually replied to my assertions instead of simply restating things in a sarcastic manner. Please reread my previous post and respond to the concepts therein if you wish to discuss it.