The DR is in

Cadaverous Pallor · 04-11-2007, 08:25 PM

I'll readily admit that some of this thread is flying right over my head (Aristotle? Jim Jackman?) but as usual I don't care enough about a Daily Grind thread to actually look things up.

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Originally Posted by Alex Stroup

Certain methods of lobbying should be against the law since they are essentially bribery or blackmail but at root, lobbying is just talking.

I'd guarantee you my immortal soul if you can bring me a person employed as a <erk> lobbyist who does not give "gifts" to representatives.

Any "gift", no matter how small or incidental, completely negates the concept of equal representation for all, no matter how the rep ends up voting. This is my solid stance on the profession.

If lobbying actually was "just talking", I'd have no problem with it.

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Originally Posted by Tramspotter

Messangers smessengers.

How dare they come here to my street and disrespect my car! or my houseguests this is SPARTA!!!!!! (If only there was a pothhole deap enough that I could kick that bitch into)

Yet again, I have no idea if you're completely joking or half-serious or WTF. It would be nice if I did.

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You guys are completely right to dismiss this guy based on his vocation point of view and his call to action media and political messages.

It would also be nice if you actually replied to my assertions instead of simply restating things in a sarcastic manner. Please reread my previous post and respond to the concepts therein if you wish to discuss it.

sleepyjeff · 04-11-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'll readily admit that some of this thread is flying right over my head (Aristotle? Jim Jackman?)

Me too....not just this thread either. All of the Daily Grind has been flying over my head for the last couple of days

Alex · 04-11-2007, 09:00 PM

I know 13 people employed as lobbyists (Government Relations) at work (). If they're doing anything that isn't available to me or you (though certainly in a much more dedicated fashion) then they hide it well.

Yes, there are bad lobbyists (though not possible without bad politicians) but in my experience they are not even close to the majority. But even if they were, there are so many lobbyists with such conflicting goals, unless the politician in question was already sympathetic to one view or another they'd probably just end up cancelling each other out.

Again though, if the entire profession should be barred, how do you draw the line to do so?

04-11-2007, 09:00 PM	#3
Alex . Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,354	I know 13 people employed as lobbyists (Government Relations) at work (). If they're doing anything that isn't available to me or you (though certainly in a much more dedicated fashion) then they hide it well. Yes, there are bad lobbyists (though not possible without bad politicians) but in my experience they are not even close to the majority. But even if they were, there are so many lobbyists with such conflicting goals, unless the politician in question was already sympathetic to one view or another they'd probably just end up cancelling each other out. Again though, if the entire profession should be barred, how do you draw the line to do so?
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