Yes, we can.

[BarTopDancer]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

No, you mistook my meaning. We call her Hillary because there's already been a well-known Clinton. We call him Dubya because there's already a well-known Bush.

Have I said "Enough with the dynasties" lately?

I'm in line with CP on this. If Hillary becomes elected then it's going to be contextual President Clinton. Or it may be Hillary. Perhaps she's promoting her "first name basis" to appeal more reachable (like corporate management started doing during).

Also, it's not all that uncommon for men to call each other by their last names. Hey Obama, what's going on? But it's rare that a group of women do. And even if they did, "Hey Clinton, what's going on?" Which Clinton are they speaking to?

Originally Posted by Not Afraid

No, we use Dubya when we're being demeaning.

Speak for yourself please. Dubya is a nickname/identification. His middle name starts with W. His first and last name are the same as his fathers. "Did you hear what George Bush did?" "Did you hear what President Bush did"? In both cases it doesn't specify which one. "Did you hear what Dubya did?" How is the later automatically demeaning?

[Kevy Baby]

Originally Posted by Snowflake

I really like this poster FEJ posted. If anyone wants a shot, they're offering 600 of them at some point today for $30. I can't seem to get the site to load, I expect the 600 will be gone in a nanosecond.

obama silk screen here (I'm assuming it's a silk screen or offset litho?)

The link won't load. I suspect they have a server that can't handle the load.

[Alex]

While I would have certain preferences for a vice president the actual person chosen plays maybe a 1% role in who I'll vote for come the general election.

[JWBear]

Apropos of nothing... But, I had a dream last night that my father was an ex-president.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Indeed.

It is exceptionally easy to talk about change. There are many eloquent and inspiring speech makers in the the world. I want to know how he's going to change things, with specifics of tax policy or health care or foreign policy.

When someone starts to do that and their plans can be analyzed by economists or foreign policy experts or whomever it can become less inspiring. The whole call for "change" in and of itself is not impressive, particularly with such an unpopular President and legislative branch. The plans for change are what is needed to impress me.

Originally Posted by innerSpaceman

OH MY GOD, I agree with scaeagles on something politcal. Someone shoot me!

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Thinking of turning the gun on myself, actually.

I'll shoot both of you, since I linked to Obama's plan in my last post. Shockingly, it isn't just him saying "change" over and over. I found it much more detailed than Hillary's site.

Originally Posted by Bornieo: Fully Loaded

I like President Bornieo

I'd vote for President Bornieo, the Love Bug. <imagines Bornieo stepping off a campaign plane, waving at the press, with the Love Bug theme blaring>

Originally Posted by FEJ

A good mashup of the Yes.We.Can speech.
Also I was able to procure a few of these a week or so ago from a friend who had them printed by Shepard:

I saw one of these posted at a house near mousepod's place last night. Dig.

Originally Posted by scaeagles

That's what the general is for. The primaries are for the members of political parties to chose who best represents their platform as a party to run in the general election. Someone not registered as a Republican, quite frankly, has no business participating in the Republican primary.

I agree with this, even as I felt frustrated at my inability to vote on Super Tuesday. This is not about electing someone, it's about choosing who runs for election. I wouldn't want other people messing with my party either.

Let me just say that the results from Saturday are so exciting. Many thanks to Wendybeth for pulling in Washington for us. I heard spin beforehand saying WA was Hillary country, but, um, not so much.

I can't believe the convention isn't until August.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

I'll shoot both of you, since I linked to Obama's plan in my last post.

Frankly, CP, it's all the same stuff. Truely. "Eliminate tax cuts for the wealthy and give more to the middle class." How does he define the middle class and the wealthy? Is he someone like Gore, who believes that someone who make 250K/year is a millionaire in 4 years?

"Eliminate wasteful spending." OK. I'm all for that. What programs? What's he going to do to stop wasteful spending in education? It sounds from reading his stuff that he plans on a whole lot more money for education.

With most of the things I've read on his site, it basically says tax the wealthy more so we have money to improve the things that are important. He says the tax cuts for the wealthy have cost the country 2.3 trillion dollars, but tax revenues have increased.

Sorry. I do think he's a decent guy - unlike Hillary and McCain - but it's nothing different than the same old same old.

[Cadaverous Pallor]

Originally Posted by scaeagles

Frankly, CP, it's all the same stuff.

People always complain that presidents get into office and then can't fulfill promises beause they have to deal with congress. To me, if he gets too specific, he'll be even more damned. Appealing to the country at large also takes flexibility.

I know, it sounds wishy washy, but he's got to be electable.

[scaeagles]

Originally Posted by Cadaverous Pallor

People always complain that presidents get into office and then can't fulfill promises beause they have to deal with congress. To me, if he gets too specific, he'll be even more damned. Appealing to the country at large also takes flexibility.

I know, it sounds wishy washy, but he's got to be electable.

It seems, then, that your excitement isn't that he has new ideas or something that hasn't been offered by every other dem candidate, your excitement is for his oratory skills and presentation.

[Morrigoon]

Okay, am I the only one who thinks this about that slogan?

[scaeagles]

Visible mojo to Morrigoon for a good laugh.